Iron vs. Stainless Steel: Understanding the Differences

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The discussion revolves around the differences between iron and stainless steel, focusing on their composition, properties, and applications. Participants explore the nature of these materials, including the role of alloying elements and specific grades of stainless steel.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that iron is an element while stainless steel is an alloy, primarily composed of iron and chromium, among other elements.
  • Another participant highlights that chromium enhances corrosion resistance and aesthetic quality in stainless steel, while carbon improves strength and toughness.
  • A question is raised about the bonding present in both iron and stainless steel.
  • It is mentioned that stainless steel should not rust if it is truly stainless, and a distinction is made that if it is stainless, it cannot be classified as iron.
  • Concerns are expressed about the terminology used, particularly regarding "stainless iron" and its implications for rust resistance.
  • Some participants discuss the specific composition of stainless steel 430, clarifying its designation and properties.
  • A participant questions the existence of "stainless iron" as claimed by some manufacturers, suggesting it may be a mix of iron and stainless steel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the terminology and definitions of "stainless iron" versus stainless steel, with no consensus on the implications of these terms for rust resistance and material properties.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the specific bonding mechanisms in iron and stainless steel, as well as the definitions and classifications of materials involved in the discussion.

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Hi all,

i'm trying to figure out the difference between iron and stainless steel. Other than maybe the appearance, that's all i can say. I can't find any links or any relevant chapters in my textbook. In the back of my mind i think the main difference is the bonding but I'm not sure. Can someone be able to help me.

Thanks

AEK
 
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Iron is an element, stainless steel is an alloy. The addition of other elements (particularly chromium when talking about stainless, but also molybdenum, manganese, phosphorus, nickel and copper, plus some others) has an alloying effect. Carbon, whilst not a metal, is universally found in steels.

All these alloying elements add particular properties to the iron. The inclusion of chromium (between 10 and 15% I recall, but check me) adds corrosion resistance and enhances the aesthetic quality of the steel. Carbon is added for mechanical reasons, and improves the material's strength and toughness.

Stainless steels are often used in applications where hygeine, corrosion resistance, appearance, impact resistance, strength/weight ratio or ease of fabrication are desired.

Any more specific questions hit me!
 
absolutely, but how about the bonding present in both solids?
 
Chromium is passivated by its oxygens and that creates resistance of the stainless steel.

Steel is an alloy containing carbon. Iron carbide (Fe3C) called cementite is responsible for steel strength.

I doubt there is a specific bonding present in the iron-chromium alloys.

Just small addition to the brewnog answer.
 
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Dear All,

I really doubt whether the stainless steel 430 same as stainless iron 430. Please help to explain what they are and which one is good without rust. I am really blank pleasesseee help.

Thanks,
wachiraporn
 
If it is stainless, it shouldn't rust. If it is stainless, it can't be iron.

Argh, I just found a mistake in my oooooold post:

Borek said:
Chromium is passivated by its oxygens

I meant oxides.
 
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Neither nor you heard the stainless iron, but chinese factories claim that they use this one for the home appliances production such as in the convection oven, use shield for covering the motor fan. I thought it might have the metal mix between iron and stainless because they call stainless iron...Still doubt of it!
 
wachiraporn said:
Dear All,

I really doubt whether the stainless steel 430 same as stainless iron 430. Please help to explain what they are and which one is good without rust. I am really blank pleasesseee help.

Thanks,
wachiraporn
If one is using the AISI designation 430, then saying stainless iron makes no sense, because 430 has a specific composition. AISI 430 or stainless steel 430 is a ferritic steel with 0.08 % carbon by weight, about 1% max Mn, 1% max Si, and 16 to 18 % Cr.
 
wachiraporn said:
Neither nor you heard the stainless iron, but chinese factories claim that they use this one for the home appliances production such as in the convection oven, use shield for covering the motor fan. I thought it might have the metal mix between iron and stainless because they call stainless iron...Still doubt of it!
Perhaps they use iron because some define steel as an iron alloy having at least 0.2% C, but then the 16 to 18% of Cr and other elements would qualify 430 as an alloy steel.
 

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