How to identify stainless steel?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to identify stainless steel, particularly through home tests. Participants explore various chemical approaches and clarify misconceptions regarding the magnetic properties of stainless steel.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that stainless steel does not attract magnets, while another counters that some types of stainless steel, specifically martensitic steel, are magnetic.
  • A participant suggests a method involving the partial dissolution of stainless steel in hydrochloric acid, followed by the use of a chelating agent and sodium hydroxide to separate chromium and iron.
  • Another participant proposes alternative methods for qualitative separation of chromium and iron, such as using hydrogen peroxide in a basic solution to produce distinct precipitates and colors for each metal.
  • Further clarification is provided on the behavior of iron hydroxides in alkaline solutions, noting the color changes and solubility differences compared to chromium hydroxide.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the magnetic properties of stainless steel. There are multiple proposed methods for identifying stainless steel, with no consensus on a single approach or the necessity of chelating agents.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed involve chemical reactions that may require careful handling and specific conditions, which are not universally accessible or safe for all individuals.

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I know that stainless steel does not attract magnet, I know that stainless steel has appearance that looks like stainless steel, but sometimes it is quite difficult to tell. In addition to magnet test, any further test I can do in my home?
 
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kenny1999 said:
I know that stainless steel does not attract magnet,
Then you "know" incorrectly. Some stainless steel IS magnetic. Google it.
 
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Like phinds said, stainless steel like martensitic steel are magnetic.

Stainless steel contains fair amount of Cr. Cr is the main reason why stainless steels are "stainless".

I never tried this, but I think this is relatively safe (make sure you wear gloves, goggles, and lab coat; do not get the chemicals on your skin) so I'll try my best to answer the OP's question.
You could try partially dissolving stainless steel in acid (for example HCl 1 - 2M), take the water solution, and use some sort of chelating agent. Then you could try using NaOH (1 - 2 M?) to change the pH so that Fe(chelate) precipitates, leaving Cr in the water solution. Check the color and see if it is the supposed to be color of Cr(chelate). I believe this method can be quantitative as well.

I don't know what chelates should be used, so you need to look that up. HCl and NaOH can be bought by general consumers in my country.
 
HAYAO said:
Stainless steel contains fair amount of Cr. Cr is the main reason why stainless steels are "stainless".

I never tried this, but I think this is relatively safe (make sure you wear gloves, goggles, and lab coat; do not get the chemicals on your skin) so I'll try my best to answer the OP's question.
You could try partially dissolving stainless steel in acid (for example HCl 1 - 2M), take the water solution, and use some sort of chelating agent. Then you could try using NaOH (1 - 2 M?) to change the pH so that Fe(chelate) precipitates, leaving Cr in the water solution. Check the color and see if it is the supposed to be color of Cr(chelate). I believe this method can be quantitative as well.

I don't know what chelates should be used, so you need to look that up. HCl and NaOH can be bought by general consumers in my country.
Do you need chelates?
Qualitative separation of Cr and Fe has other possibilities.
Like ´hydrogen peroxide in basic solution. Fe is oxidized to brown Fe(OH)3 precipitate (you need stronger oxidants for ferrate), while Cr is oxidized to yellow chromate solution.
 
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snorkack said:
Do you need chelates?
Qualitative separation of Cr and Fe has other possibilities.
Like ´hydrogen peroxide in basic solution. Fe is oxidized to brown Fe(OH)3 precipitate (you need stronger oxidants for ferrate), while Cr is oxidized to yellow chromate solution.
Oh yeah, didn't think about that. Haha. Thanks. :-p
 
Even without any chelation, adding alkali to Fe solution precipitates either Fe(OH)2, which is at first white but then rapidly turns green and then brown of Fe(OH)3 due to air oxygen, or directly the brown Fe(OH)3. Neither Fe(OH)2 nor Fe(OH)3 will dissolve in excess alkali, unless you apply a strong oxidant like hypochlorite, and then the solution is purple.
Cr(OH)3 precipitate is grayish green and unlike Fe(OH)3 it dissolves in alkali without adding oxidant, giving a solution that is green. Oxidizing Cr(OH)3 in alkali can be done not only by hypochlorite but also by hydrogen peroxide, and the colour turns to yellow.
Solutions and precipitates of iron:
https://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/solutions/fe.html
Solutions and precipitates of chromium:
https://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/solutions/cr.html
 

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