Is 2i + j + 3k the Normal Vector of Plane CDPQ?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the vector 2i + j + 3k serves as the normal vector for the plane CDPQ, in contrast to the known normal vector of another plane, ABQP, which is -2i - j + 3k.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the use of vector products to find normal vectors and question how the normal vector of plane CDPQ relates to that of plane ABQP. There are inquiries about visualizing these vectors in a plan view and considering potential symmetries.

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Participants are exploring different perspectives on the problem, with some offering hints and guidance on how to approach the verification of the normal vector. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the formulas involved, and the discussion remains open without a clear consensus.

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There is a mention of the need to prove the relationship between the normal vectors of the two planes, which may involve geometric interpretations and assumptions about their orientations.

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Homework Statement
The planes ABCD and EFGH are parallel to the horizontal surface represented by the xy-plane. The triangles APD and BQC are congruent isosceles triangles and the lengths of the pillars AE, BF, CG, and DH are of the same height. The equation of the plane ABQP is given by -2x-y+3z = 2 and the point P has position vector 4i + 2j + 4k.

Explain why plane CDPQ is perpendicular to 2i + j + 3k. Hence show that the equation of the plane CDPQ is 2x + y + 3z = 22
Relevant Equations
Equation of plane: r . n = c
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I know the normal of plane ABQP is -2i - j + 3k but I don't know how to prove that 2i + j + 3k is the normal vector of plane CDPQ

Thanks
 
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Hi, hope you are in the fullest of your sprits!
To find the normal, you can use the vector product
If you don't know what that is, then

A \times B=\left\| A \right\| \left\| B \right\| \sin \theta n

where ||A|| and ||B|| are magnitudes of vectors A and B respectively
 
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Cuckoo Beats said:
Hi, hope you are in the fullest of your sprits!
To find the normal, you can use the vector product
If you don't know what that is, then

A \times B=\left\| A \right\| \left\| B \right\| \sin \theta n

where ||A|| and ||B|| are magnitudes of vectors A and B respectively
The formula shown is somewhat unclear, as it looks like the last factor is ##\sin (\theta n)##. In fact, the formula should be as follows:
$$\vec A \times \vec B = \left(|\vec A| |\vec B| \sin(\theta)\right) \vec n$$
where ##\vec n## is the unit vector that is perpendicular to both ##\vec A## and ##\vec B##.
 
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Cuckoo Beats said:
Hi, hope you are in the fullest of your sprits!
Hello @Cuckoo Beats ,
:welcome:
 
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songoku said:
I know the normal of plane ABQP is -2i - j + 3k but I don't know how to prove that 2i + j + 3k is the normal vector of plane CDPQ

One way to think about this problem is to look at the plan view.

If the normal vector to plane ABQP is -2i - j + 3k, what does that normal vector look like in the plan view?

What does the normal vector to CDPQ look like in the plan view? How that vector relate to the previous normal vector you drew? (Think about any kind of symmetries that should be there.)
 
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I think I get the hint.

Thank you very much Cuckoo beats, Mark44, SammyS, olivermsun
 

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