How to solve for the general solution in a vector linear relationship?

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to the vector equation involving a cross product: ##{u}\times{(i+4j)}=3k##. The subject area includes vector algebra and linear relationships in three-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the visualization of the problem and the implications of the cross product. There are attempts to equate components and derive relationships between the variables a and b. Questions arise regarding the introduction of a parameter t and its significance in the context of the general solution.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the role of the parameter t and how it relates to the general solution. Some guidance has been offered about the relationship between the components of the vectors, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the general solution.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the use of magnitudes in the context of the cross product and the implications of the general solution being a vector equation of a line. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem as presented in the homework context.

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution to the equation: ##{u}\times{(i+4j)}=3k##

Homework Equations


##u=(ai+bj+ck)##

The Attempt at a Solution


I am having trouble visualising what to do here.

So my through so far is that, if i do ##(ai+bj+ck)\times {(i+4j)}=(0i-0j+(4a-b)k) ##
now if I equate ##(0i-0j+(4a-b)k)=(0i+0j+3k)## I get ##4a-b=3## and this is where i draw a blank,it's the general equation part that I don't get.

I mean if I rearange I could do for a or b, I preffer b as it have no fractions, ##4a-3=b##, so I assume that I would sub this back into u which would give me ##u=(0i+(4a-3)j+0k)##. Now doe the general equation, mean vector equation of the line. Normally I would find the direction vector and the starting vector but it being a cross product has thrown me a bit. Am I on the right lines or have I gone very wrong?
 
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From the first you know that u is perpendicular to k hence u can be written as ai + bj and from there sub into the cross product and solve it.
 
Hi, is that not what I have done, the ans in the back of the exercsie book gives the ans as: ##u=-3j+t(i+4j)## where has the parameter t come into, p.s I did not look at the ans before I posted, but still unawre how u can equal this, as to me it look like the vector equation of a line.
 
Taylor_1989 said:
Hi, is that not what I have done, the ans in the back of the exercsie book gives the ans as: ##u=-3j+t(i+4j)## where has the parameter t come into, p.s I did not look at the ans before I posted, but still unawre how u can equal this, as to me it look like the vector equation of a line.

You just need to equate magnitudes. since any two dimensional vector have $k$ as the unit vector of vector product.
 
Ok, I am really not understanding here, how dose equating the magnitudes help with this problem as there is a parameter t. Could you please expand, if you calculate the magnitude surely you just working out the area of a parallelogram?
 
Taylor_1989 said:

Homework Statement


Find the general solution to the equation: ##{u}\times{(i+4j)}=3k##

Homework Equations


##u=(ai+bj+ck)##

The Attempt at a Solution


I am having trouble visualising what to do here.

So my through so far is that, if i do ##(ai+bj+ck)\times {(i+4j)}=(0i-0j+(4a-b)k) ##
now if I equate ##(0i-0j+(4a-b)k)=(0i+0j+3k)## I get ##4a-b=3## and this is where i draw a blank,it's the general equation part that I don't get.

I mean if I rearange I could do for a or b, I preffer b as it have no fractions, ##4a-3=b##, so I assume that I would sub this back into u which would give me ##u=(0i+(4a-3)j+0k)##.

##\vec u=a \vec i + b \vec j +c \vec k##. You obtained b=4a-3 which is correct, and a is arbitrary. For the general solution, you can not take the coefficient of ##\vec i ## zero in vector ##\vec u##.
 
so from what u are saying is that ##a=t, u=ai+bj=ti+(4t-3)j## now I assume that this is t can be any number along the u vector?
 
Taylor_1989 said:
so from what u are saying is that ##a=t, u=ai+bj=ti+(4t-3)j## now I assume that this is t can be any number along the u vector?
t is an arbitrary number, and u depends on it. "number along the u vector" has no sense.
 
Thank you for you help after taking a step back I relieased what was going on. Once again thank you for the help
 

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