Is an answer possible - Conditional Probability

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The discussion revolves around understanding conditional probability, specifically how to derive p(c|ab) from the equation p(abc)=0.75*0.9*p(c|ab). Participants agree that there isn't enough information to produce a singular answer, but a range of probabilities can be provided, estimated between 0 and 0.675. The notation p(abc) is clarified as the probability of events a, b, and c occurring together. Additionally, there is a suggestion to explore "3-event Venn diagrams" for visual representation of the probabilities. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for more information to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement
p(a)=0.75
p(b|a)=0.9
p(b|a')=0.8
p(c|a'b)=0.7
p(c|a'b')=0.3
p(c|ab')=0.6
(These are the only data I was given)
Find p(abc)?
Relevant Equations
p(abc) = p(a)p(b|a)p(c|ab)
I am a noob to this topic so correct me If I made any silly mistake. By plugging in the values I managed to get

p(abc)=0.75*0.9*p(c|ab)
Here How can I find p(c|ab)? Is this question unsolvable or can I derive it?
I also want to know what is meant by p(abc) in literary terms.

I also created a Tree Diagram for the question(Correct me if there is any mistake)
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Your tree looks right.

I think you don't have enough information in the problem statement to produce an singular answer. You could provide a range of probabilities, though.

"p(abc)" = P(a, b, c) = is a notation for the probablity of a and b and c happening.
 
lewando said:
I think you don't have enough information in the problem statement to produce an singular answer. You could provide a range of probabilities, though.

"p(abc)" = P(a, b, c) = is a notation for the probability of a and b and c happening.
How can I get a range of probabilities? (My guess is From 0 to 0.675, How can I represent this range Symbolically?)
How can I represent the above tree chart in a venn diagram?
Are there any difference between p(abc), p(a and b and c), p(a∩b∩c )

THANK YOU
 
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Manasan3010 said:
How can I get a range of probabilities? (My guess is From 0 to 0.675, How can I represent this range Symbolically?)
Your guess is right, but why guess? You should be able to rationalize this.
How about: 0.675 >= p(abc) >= 0
How can I represent the above tree chart in a venn diagram?
Have you tried researching "3-event Venn diagrams"? There are plenty of examples (3 overlapping circles in a rectangular sample space) "out there". The sample space will consist of 8 non-overlapping regions. These correspond to the 8 "endpoints" of your tree.
Are there any difference between p(abc), p(a and b and c), p(a∩b∩c )
No.
 
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