Is an Inductor Consuming or Delivering Reactive Power?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of reactive power in inductors, particularly in the context of RL circuits and synchronous machines. Participants explore the definitions and implications of an inductor either consuming or delivering reactive power, as well as the transient and steady-state behaviors of current in these circuits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about whether an inductor is consuming or delivering reactive power, particularly in relation to the phase angle of the voltage source.
  • Another participant notes that the term "consuming" implies that current is lagging, and clarifies that reactive power is stored in the inductor's magnetic field rather than consumed.
  • Questions are raised about the origin of transient states in circuits and how they relate to reactive power, especially when starting from non-equilibrium conditions.
  • Some participants reference external resources to clarify the differences in terminology and concepts related to reactive power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether inductors are consuming or delivering reactive power, and multiple competing views remain regarding the definitions and implications of these terms.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of reactive power, the behavior of inductors during transient states, and the implications of phase angles in circuit analysis.

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Trying to understand the power network and synchronous machines, led me to the fact that I am not sure about the basics.

The terms the generator is delivering or consuming reacting power made me halt.


So I went back to my old course(which I allegedly passed) where the reactive power is addressed. I couldn't understand that back then(1 year) because I barley handled the phase angle, let alone problems of reactive power and its true meaning.



Consider a RL circuit. Plain. (or real inductor).



Solving the differential equation(which I didn't know how to do back then) gives me this:

for u(t)=U_m\cdot sin(\omega t+\theta _u)

I get that the current is changing like:

i(t)=I_m\cdot sin(\omega t+\theta _u-\phi _L)-I_ m\cdot sin(\theta _u -\phi _L)\cdot e^{-\frac{R}{L}t}

Lets discuss this:

We have 2 components. First component represents a steady-state current.

Second component represents a transient-state which slowly fades.


My question here is:


Do we say for an inductor, that is consuming reactive power?

If we make the angle of the voltage source u(t) such that it cancels the transient-state, did we in fact, "configured" that voltage source, to give OUT reactive power, and give it out just SO much that it cancels the "needs" of that inductor?


These are the questions for now, tons of other are awaiting, but first I have to make a clear distinction between giving out and consuming reactive power.
 
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I usually forward people to this. I think it describes the differences well.
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_11/2.html
 
Do we say for an inductor, that is consuming reactive power?

It's all a agreement how we call that.. consuming means that the current is lagging. There is no power consumption - the reactive power is stored in inductiors magnetic field (stored in one period and moved out in another period).

If we make the angle of the voltage source u(t) such that it cancels the transient-state, did we in fact, "configured" that voltage source, to give OUT reactive power, and give it out just SO much that it cancels the "needs" of that inductor?

First of all.. where from comes the transient state ? Tranient occurs when You start from "u(t=0) not eq amplitude". Why ? When U is at it's peak I is equal to 0 (90deg phase shift, obvious). But what about reactive power ? When "q(t=0) is eq to 0" the circuit starts with no transients. At point (t=0"-") the total energy stored in inductor is zero, and there can't be a discontinous energy change.
 
es1 said:
I usually forward people to this. I think it describes the differences well.
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_11/2.html

Thank you for your link. Very useful.
 

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