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I didnt realize we were on a topic of opinion, rather than looking for supporting facts ABOUT Chi
47MartialMan said:I didnt realize we were on a topic of opinion, rather than looking for supporting facts ABOUT Chi
Tiller is a teacher, researcher, author and consultant, and is currently Professor Emeritus of the Department of Materials Science and Engineering at Stanford University. He previously worked as an advisory physicist at Westinghouse Research Laboratories, and has published 275 scientific papers and three technical books in the field of materials science.
99.999% of all physical 'matter' consists of vacuum, with BIG spaces between electrons and nucleus. Most people think that the vacuum is empty, but for internal self consistancy between Quantum mechanics and relativity, there is required for there to be 1094 grams of mass energy. That means that the energy potential (or latent energy) stored in one single Hydrogen atom is equivalent to one trillion times all the energy in our universe! If our consciousness could interact with the vacuum, we could have some very BIG effects. Even creating a Big Bang would be no problem.
SoleKundalite said:What can I do with this adrenaline/kundalini energy/chi/ki/prana/mana:.
SoleKundalite said:I can increase my stamina so much I can do 200-300 repetitions of a weight instead of the normal 100..
SoleKundalite said:I can bench press 10-20% more in terms of reps or weight than I normally would be able to without using the energy..
SoleKundalite said:I can break harder substances with my fists now.
Forgive me for questioning you, but there have been many (even a few on this forum) who have made fraudulent claims.
What exercise are you doing, such that you normally do 100 repetitions?
This brings to light a general question. how do you define what you would *normally* be able to do? how do you know that it is just that *normally* you aren't holding back? It is not normal human nature to do things at 100% unless you put your mind to it and will yourself to put forth extra affort.
Most people at the gym have this ability, they psyche themselves up a bit before they lift.
Could it not just be that you are better at breaking now?
Violator said:I think in terms of martial artists, what you are seeing described as Chi is primarily momentum. Its rather amazing the difference in force between a punch thrown from the shoulder and one thrown by twisting the hips and using the shoulder. Talking about sending a wave from the back foot to the fist is really a convenient metaphor for shifting the entire weight of the body into a small point. Many of the impressive demonstrations performed by Chi arts are also performed by non-mystic arts as well. I watched a 125 pound woman break a cinder block with her fist in a Tae Kwon Do class, and we discussed nothing but muscle tension and focusing strikes on a point. Which makes a lot of sense, physically, 125 pounds spread over the surface area of an entire hand cause much less damage than 125 pounds on the point of a knuckle.
Poop-Loops said:I don't see how this is even a debate. Chi isn't real, period. Any sort of "proof" the chi-believers give can always be explained the way Violator just did.
What you describe as "chi" is simply "psyching up". Athletes do it all the time.
striker5585 said:i myself do not really know weather i believe in this energy or energy transfer. but i don't discount the possibility. there is so much we don't know, and who's to say that this really isn't a fact of life? when Galileo publish his book Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems many people where skeptic to his theory that the Earth was not the center of our universe. he was ridiculed and even forbidden to hold, teach or defend his opinion in any way, either verbally or in writing and later found guilty as suspected of heresy and was made to kneel down and abjure his opinion. the bottom line is you need to keep your mind open to new ideas weather the idea sounds far fetched or not. having an open mind is the key for the advancement of our knowledge as a whole.
SoleKundalite said:Dumbbell curls, when I was normal I would say do 100 repetitions of a 20 lb weight and upon trying to exert myself/making some noise maybe could go up to 130 reps.
SoleKundalite said:This adrenaline rush type energy allows me to recharge in a few seconds as well as decrease my sensitivity to pain, so I can increase reps to 200 to maybe even 250-300. But using it excessively causes my body temperature to increase a bit so I feel a bit of heat around me. If done long enough I might have a little tension near my forehead.
SoleKundalite said:I have observed many other guys at the gym and I did not see the hairs on their forearms stand. This is the clearest sign that the adrenaline release is taking place.
SoleKundalite said:Adrenaline/Chi allows one to have just tons of energy. All the big guys/other guys will be sweating and resting while you can get 2-3 times the workout they're getting.
SoleKundalite said:I never received any breaking instruction from a martial artist so I only stick to ice at the moment. It seems easier to break now and I appear more focused and fired up. There's less of that hesitation b/c of the increased Chi/adrenaline levels.
striker5585 said:Poop-Loops i think you misunderstood the point i was trying to convey. i said that society needs to keep there minds open to "new" ideas when i should have said "different" ideas. western medicine has come along due to the advancements of our knowledge and technology. its easy to agree that if it weren't for western medicine and the applicable technology people would live much shorter lives. the point that i am trying to convey is that alto western medicine is a huge part of out modern medicine you must not forget other avenues of treatment. use western medicine along with holistic methods of treatment. you must remember that some large changes in the western medical practice were due to holistic ideas.
SoleKundalite said:Let's say I do 10-14 reps of 35 or 40 lbs as a heavier weight. So 20 lbs is a bit lighter.
Adjust your own heavier weight that you do 10-14 reps and use one that is 15-20 lbs lighter and do 100 reps if that would make it similar to me using a 20 lb weight. After doing 100 reps try and do 200-300 reps. It is pretty much impossible unless you can get the adrenaline/electricity to flow through your body and feel it. It's like an aura. Like I said I've been observing all the other guys at numerous gyms and none of them seem to have this ability besides myself. Didn't see any goosebumps nor forearm hairs standing straight up.
Just read up a little on how adrenaline actually works and then visualize what it can do at greater levels than when excreted normally.
SoleKundalite said:If I do 100 reps of a lighter weight, like 20 lbs, I do it for toning, not necessarily to get stronger or bigger. I'm not so much looking to get big but to burn fat and get toned at the moment.
SoleKundalite said:do one and have to take some time to rest. Lifting weights has been far easier than ever before almost to the point of boredom.
SoleKundalite said:Forearm hairs standing/goosebumps are the key feature to identify those who can release this Chi. I guess I'd better take a photo to show you that it is possible.
SoleKundalite said:womenshealthmag.com/health/adrenaline
Adrenaline on Tap
It makes you faster, stronger
SoleKundalite said:"Adrenaline increases the rate of cycling of crossbridges in rat cardiac muscle as measured by pseudo-random binary noise-modulated perturbation analysis
JF Hoh, GH Rossmanith, LJ Kwan and AM Hamilton
Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia.
The mechanism of action of adrenaline on cardiac contractility in rat papillary muscles containing V1 and V3 isomyosins was analyzed during barium-activated contractures at 25 degrees C by frequency domain analysis using pseudo-random binary noise-modulated perturbations. The analysis characterizes a frequency (fmin) at which dynamic stiffness of a muscle is a minimum, a parameter that reflects the rate of cycling of crossbridges. We have previously shown that fmin for V1- and V3- containing papillary muscles were 2.1 +/- 0.2 Hz (mean +/- SD) (n = 10) and 1.1 +/- 0.2 Hz (n = 8), respectively, and that these values were independent of the level of activation. The present study's goal was to determine whether the inotropic action of adrenaline was associated with an increased rate of crossbridge cycling. The results show that a saturating dose of adrenaline increased fmin in V1 hearts by 49 +/- 2% (n = 11). The action on V3 hearts was significantly less; the increase in fmin was 26 +/- 2% (n = 6). The increase in fmin for V1 hearts was shown to be sensitive to the beta-blocking agent propranolol. These results suggest that adrenaline significantly increases the rate of crossbridge cycling by a beta-receptor-mediated mechanism. We conclude that the increased contractility of the heart in the presence of adrenaline arises not only from more complete activation of the contractile proteins but also from the increased rate at which each crossbridge can transduce energy."
Taken from: ==>circres.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/62/3/452