Is Dark Energy Really Constant? New Evidence from Multiple Surveys

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The discussion centers around the nature of dark energy, specifically whether it is constant or if it exhibits temporal evolution. Participants reference a paper that analyzes data from various cosmological observations to assess the equation of state for dark energy, exploring implications for cosmological models.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that the referenced paper finds no significant evidence for evolving dark energy, suggesting consistency with a cosmological constant (w = -1).
  • Others emphasize the importance of the paper's findings in reassuring that the equation of state parameter w does not change over time or redshift.
  • One participant expresses a preference for a steady w = -1, indicating a desire for stability in cosmological models.
  • Conversely, another participant expresses interest in discovering dynamics in dark energy, suggesting that a non-constant w could provide valuable insights.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of the paper's title and abstract, clarifying the focus on dark energy dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the paper's findings regarding the lack of evidence for evolving dark energy. However, there are differing opinions on whether a constant dark energy is preferable or if dynamics would be more intriguing.

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The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the implications of a constant versus dynamic dark energy, with no consensus on which scenario is more desirable or interesting.

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No evidence for dark energy----------

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0908/0908.3186v1.pdf

We use a variant of principal component analysis to investigate the possible temporal evolution of the dark energy equation of state, w(z). We constrain w(z) in multiple redshift bins, utilizing the most recent data from Type Ia supernovae, the cosmic microwave background, baryon acoustic oscillations, the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect, galaxy clustering, and weak lensing data. Unlike other recent analyses, we find no significant evidence for evolving dark energy; the data remains completely consistent with a cosmological constant. We also study the extent to which the time-evolution of the equation of state would be constrained by a combination of current- and future-generation surveys, such as Planck and the Joint Dark Energy Mission.
 
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Careful with the title of the thread; the title of the paper is "No Evidence for Dark Energy Dynamics ...," and the abstract says "we find no significant evidence for evolving dark energy ..."
 
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George Jones said:
Careful with the title of the thread; the title of the paper is "No Evidence for Dark Energy Dynamics ...," and the abstract says "we find no significant evidence for evolving dark energy ..."

Sorry George.
 


Thanks to both, for pointing paper out and truing up its interpretation.
The important thing seems to be what they say in their abstract summary which fortunately Wolram quoted in original post

...the data remains completely consistent with a cosmological constant. We also study the extent to which...

The cosmo constant is a special case of "dark energy" where the density of dark energy does not change over time and the relation of that to pressure also does not change. In this particular special case (which seems the simplest and most appealing to a lot of people) the constant ratio between the density and pressure is -1.

In the cosmo constant case of "dark energy" it is always true that

pressure = - energy density.

So if you like metric units that would mean that if the energy density (as an unreal example) were to be one joule per cubic meter, then the pressure would be exactly
minus one pascal.
The ratio between the two is minus one.

This ratio between the density and the pressure is often notated by a "w" and called the "equation of state" parameter.
If you have a cosmo model with dark energy in it and the energy density is constant and
w = -1, then that corresponds to a cosmological constant.

So what these people are doing is reassuring us that so far the data is still consistent with a steady w = -1. That the number w does not somehow change with time or redshift. Personally I am glad they are checking this repeatedly and stringently, and I am also very glad that it keeps coming out to be w = -1.
I like calm.

Other people, who like nervousness and excitement, probably are wishing that it would come out that w is not -1, and even that w changes over time. This to me would be the pits.

So what they are saying (taking account of GJ's correction) is no evidence for a changeable dark energy.

Thanks for posting the latest news on this!
 
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marcus said:
TSo what these people are doing is reassuring us that so far the data is still consistent with a steady w = -1. That the number w does not somehow change with time or redshift. Personally I am glad they are checking this repeatedly and stringently, and I am also very glad that it keeps coming out to be w = -1.
I like calm.
I'm not. It'd be really interesting if we could discover some dynamics to dark energy that would give us some hints as to what's going on. All we can say so far is, "cosmological constant not yet ruled out."
 

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