Is Every Algebraic Element of a Field Extension Contained in the Base Field?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of algebraic elements within field extensions, specifically examining the relationship between a field extension K and its base field F. Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of algebraic elements in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the definition of the set A of algebraic elements and whether it is correctly stated as a subfield contained in F. There is also a discussion about the conditions under which A equals K and the implications of being an algebraic extension.

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The discussion has seen some clarification regarding the definition of algebraic elements and their relationship to the base field. Some participants have acknowledged corrections and expressed understanding, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding terminology and definitions, particularly around the concept of algebraic elements and their containment within the base field versus the extension itself.

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My notes say:
If K is an extension of F then A={a in K | a is algebraic} is a subfield of K contained in F.

But the elements in A need not be in F, right? Shouldn't it be:

If K is an extension of F then A={a in K | a is algebraic} is a subfield of K contained in K.

But I don't see the point of saying that-- if it's a subfield, of course it's in K. Also, I thought that AUF = K ... but that only happens when it is an algebraic extension... right?
 
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futurebird said:
If K is an extension of F then A={a in K | a is algebraic} is a subfield of K containing in F.
I fixed a probably typo. And I assume you meant "a is algebraic over F"?
 
A={a in K | a is algebraic over F}

Like this, yes.
 
never mind--- I get it now!

Thanks again!
 

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