Is information ALWAYS conserved in quantum mechanics?

In summary, the conversation revolves around the concept of information conservation and its relationship to determinism and quantum mechanics. The Liouville's theorem suggests that information is conserved, but this conflicts with the non-deterministic nature of quantum mechanics. The conversation also touches on the idea of black holes and their role in information loss, as well as theories that attempt to reconcile information conservation with time-reversibility. Ultimately, there is a philosophical debate about whether the breakdown of information conservation in current theories is a positive or negative aspect.
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I have been doing some research on Leonard Susskind and how he claims information is conserved. I don't think if we reverse time we will get back what we started EVERY single time. Thinking that information is conserved really doesn't make sense to me. What do you think? If you agree with me, could you come up with some examples. If you disagree, back it up. Thanks
 
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"Conservation of information", the Liouville's theorem, neccessarily implies determinism. QM is definitely not deterministic, as we understand it today. The unitary evolution of a quantum state is deterministic, but at the moment of collapse, new information appears.

Determinism alone is not enough to have Liouville's theorem, though. General relativity is deterministic, but information can be destroyed during creation of a black hole. The "no hair" theorem states that a black hole carries only few bits of information, forgetting about most properties of matter that had fallen into it.

The Liouville's theorem holds only if for each state there is exactly one future and exactly one past. QM violates the first, GR the latter. There are theories (like the Hawking radiation) that violate both.
Classical mechanics is perfectly deterministic and information-conserving.

The change of information capacity is an important indicator of the time arrow. It's the only microscopic process not symmetric under time reversal.

The important philosophical question: is the Liouville's theorem good or bad? Should we be happy that our current theories break information conservation, or should we seek for a better theory that preserves it?
Classical thermodynamics depends on Liouville's theorem and can not live without it.

There are theories that try to be information-preserving. I.e. there is a hypothesis that black holes actually hold some information (they have hair) that can be further extracted through the Hawking radiation.
Other theories do not have information preservation, but try to be time-reversible. The information loss in black holes is the same thing that the creation of information in quantum decays.
 
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FAQ: Is information ALWAYS conserved in quantum mechanics?

1. Is information always conserved in quantum mechanics?

In classical mechanics, it is believed that information is always conserved. However, in quantum mechanics, this is still a highly debated topic. Some theories suggest that information can be lost in certain quantum processes, while others argue that it is always conserved.

2. What is the principle of unitarity in quantum mechanics?

The principle of unitarity states that the total probability of all possible outcomes in a quantum system must always equal to one. This is used to argue that information cannot be lost in quantum processes, as it would violate the principle of unitarity.

3. Can information be destroyed in black holes?

This is a hotly debated topic in the field of quantum mechanics. Some theories suggest that black holes can destroy information, while others argue that it is conserved through a process known as Hawking radiation. The question of whether information can be destroyed in black holes is still an active area of research.

4. How does entanglement relate to the conservation of information in quantum mechanics?

Entanglement is a phenomenon in which two or more quantum particles become correlated in such a way that the state of one particle cannot be described independently of the other. Some theories suggest that entanglement plays a crucial role in the conservation of information in quantum systems.

5. What are some potential implications if information is not conserved in quantum mechanics?

If information is not conserved in quantum mechanics, it could have significant implications for our understanding of the universe and the laws of physics. It could also have practical implications for quantum technologies, such as quantum computing, which rely on the ability to manipulate and preserve information at the quantum level.

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