Is information conserved in quantum physics?

In summary, Leonard Susskind discusses the concept of the present "here and now" being computed by nature using events in its past light cone and the laws of nature. However, with the introduction of quantum randomness and uncertainty, this idea becomes more complex. Quantum physics suggests that the future quantum state can determine the exact probability for each outcome, but once something actually happens, the probability for it becomes 1 and the information for all other outcomes is lost. This is known as the measurement problem or wave-function collapse and has not been fully resolved. Susskind suggests that the new future after a measurement may encode new information, but this remains a problematic notion in light of quantum physics.
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Leonard Susskind says so. But I don't see it.

Yes, the present "here and now" is computed by nature from the events lying in its past light cone + the laws of nature. If we assume a deterministic universe, the present "here and now" contains the information from the events in its past light cone.

But when we introduce quantum randomness and uncertainty, we can not say that anymore. The present "here and now" is computed by the events in its past light cone + the laws of nature, + an element of uncertainty or randomness. The "here and now" can never tell us precisely what the past events were like, because it may have been defined by a random quantum "jump" altering what classical theory would have predicted.

So, in which way can we say that information is conserved when we include quantum mechanics? Surely Susskind is much more clever than I am so I must be wrong in something.
 
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You have touched on one of the great mysteries. Quantum physics describes a precise way to determine the future quantum state. This might tell us in the future that there is an exact probability for each outcome. Information is conserved in the sense that quantum state (that tells us the probabilities) can be advanced forward and backward in time to tell us the probabilities at any other time.

However once something actually happens1 then the probability for it becomes 1 and the probability for all other outcomes becomes 0. This can imply a loss of information. We explain this by the existence of some element outside the system which has interacted with it.

So with conventional thinking at least, we would conclude that something special seems to happen at the end of the experiment. This quandary is sometimes called the measurement problem or wave-function collapse. This issue has not been fully resolved.

1 perhaps a problematic notion in light of quantum physics
 
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But when a measurement is made, the future is different, so maybe that new future encodes the new information?
 

1. What is the concept of conservation of information in quantum physics?

The concept of conservation of information in quantum physics states that the total amount of information in a closed quantum system remains constant over time. This means that the information cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred or transformed.

2. How does quantum physics affect the conservation of information?

In quantum physics, the behavior of particles is described by probabilities rather than definite states. This means that information about a particle's state is constantly changing and cannot be known with certainty. However, the total amount of information in the system remains constant.

3. Is information always conserved in quantum physics?

Yes, according to the laws of quantum physics, information is always conserved. This is known as the unitarity principle, which states that all operations in quantum mechanics must be reversible and conserve information.

4. Can information be lost in quantum systems?

No, information cannot be lost in quantum systems. Even if a particle's state cannot be known with certainty, the information about its state is still preserved in the overall system. This is known as the no-cloning theorem.

5. How does the concept of entanglement relate to the conservation of information in quantum physics?

Entanglement is a phenomenon in which two particles become connected in such a way that the state of one particle is dependent on the state of the other, regardless of the distance between them. This means that the total amount of information in the system is still conserved, even though the individual particles may seem to be sharing information instantaneously.

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