Is Information Overload Draining Us?

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The discussion centers on the overwhelming amount of information individuals are exposed to in today's fast-paced world, likening human cognitive capacity to that of a computer struggling with data overload. Participants express concern about the retention of unnecessary information, suggesting that while the human mind adapts well, the constant influx of details from media can lead to mental fatigue. There is a consensus that while people can filter out unimportant information, the sheer volume of data can still desensitize them and create a sense of complacency. The conversation touches on the role of advertising, with some arguing that commercials are designed to create subconscious associations rather than be actively remembered. Others note that the bombardment of ads and information can inhibit rational decision-making, leading to a reliance on familiar brands. The discussion concludes with reflections on how individuals navigate this information landscape, emphasizing personal agency in choosing what to pay attention to amidst the noise.
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With all the changes that constantly take place in the world, with technology, politics, environment, etc..., and the DETAILS of those changes presented by many, many sources of media, it's difficult to keep up with what is current.

I think if human beings were computers, under the current conditions our RAM would be always maxed out, our harddrive would be bogged-down with outdated files that should be deleted, and our CPU would need to be upgraded.

So, are human beings getting drained by too much information?
 
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I would be but I try not to retain anything I don't like
 
Talk about a quick reply.

I agree, but many individuals, whether they try or not, do retain info they do not want to retain.
 
Nah, it's only a problem for people who don't eat chocolate or drink caffeinated beverages. :-p :smile:
 
jimmie said:
With all the changes that constantly take place in the world, with technology, politics, environment, etc..., and the DETAILS of those changes presented by many, many sources of media, it's difficult to keep up with what is current.
I think if human beings were computers, under the current conditions our RAM would be always maxed out, our harddrive would be bogged-down with outdated files that should be deleted, and our CPU would need to be upgraded.
So, are human beings getting drained by too much information?
The human mind appears to be able to adapt quite well. Apparently we do not suffer from the physical constraints computers do.
 
see, this for example. I have no idea what my previous post said. Retention like a goldfish, a goldfish with alzheimers...on crack.
 
Nah, it's only a problem for people who don't eat chocolate or drink caffeinated beverages.

Uhhh...yeah.

If that were true, I would be the first dude buying a Snickers and Coke.

Mind you, it's not like I never ate that stuff. In fact, I still remember the ad for Coke, which i drank, back in the early 80's with the crying Indian. That file/memory should have deleted a long time ago.
 
tribdog said:
see, this for example. I have no idea what my previous post said. Retention like a goldfish, a goldfish with alzheimers...on crack.
^this guy won funniest member of the year?^
 
I did? wow. I'd forgot
 
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jimmie said:
Talk about a quick reply.
I agree, but many individuals, whether they try or not, do retain info they do not want to retain.
That shouldn't prevent them from retaining new information, or specifically, important information.

Normally, non important information will go to some type of "storage", and on occasion it may bubble up. If a person has a problem where unimportant information remains active while important information gets stored, they may have a problem.
 
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yes, amazing... (EDIT- to trib's post)
 
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Chemistry alone makes me overload...
 
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Nah, it's only a problem for people who don't eat chocolate or drink caffeinated beverages

Moonbear, you've probably been saving that one for while to spring it on me at the right time, eh?
 
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jimmie said:
In fact, I still remember the ad for Coke, which i drank, back in the early 80's with the crying Indian. That file/memory should have deleted a long time ago.
Not necessarily. As long as you are able to remember recent events, having old memories recur is quite common.

There are people with brain damage that have lost their short term memory and can only remember the past.
 
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That shouldn't prevent them from retaining new information, or specifically, important information.

I agree, but, while we do need new important information, we seem to be exposed to every little minute detail that comes with that new important information.

The news media makes its living by providing those details. And I sometimes think its at the expense of a calm mind.

It would be nice to be given the opportunity to CHOOSE to learn the details of the info, however impractical that scenario may be.
 
  • #16
Just ask drew barrymore

and for the indian crying commercial it shouldn't have been deleted because you needed it just now to write that post.
 
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you're so wise tribdog O.o
 
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its a good idea, and you would think that we would suffer from overload, but it just doesn't seem to be the case. We seem to have too many safeguards built into our system. For example check out the optical illusion thread. Our brain filters out all that extra information perhaps so we don't overload.
 
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and for the indian crying commercial it shouldn't have been deleted because you needed it just now to write that post.

Actually, you brought up a good point.

With all the advertising of products going on in the media, billions of dollars being spent to present you with thousands of TV ads, how many ads can an individual actually remember?
 
  • #20
jimmie said:
I agree, but, while we do need new important information, we seem to be exposed to every little minute detail that comes with that new important information.
For most people that isn't a problem, you remember the point, but the minute details get pushed to the back, so much so, that some people can't remember the minute details at all.

Are you experiencing some kind of problem?
 
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1. Wher's the beef
2. Geico ads

the most memoable ads
 
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An important mantra be keep your sanity in today's society is:
"Just because they're selling, doesn't mean you have to buy."

And that's NOT about purchasing. It's about societal and media pressure to take advantage of every opportunity that comes along. Because you CAN have a satellite phone to keep working while at the cottage doesn't mean you HAVE to. And just because you CAN work a 60 hour week, doesn't mean you HAVE to.

Our life direction is still up to us as individuals. The fact that we have more - and easier - choices to make turns merely means we are that much more responsible for being at the wheel.
 
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jimmie said:
Actually, you brought up a good point.
With all the advertising of products going on in the media, billions of dollars being spent to present you with thousands of TV ads, how many ads can an individual actually remember?
I do that every once in a while

I think the brain is probably capable of remembering more commercials than have ever been made.

Actually I think overload does happen sometimes, I just thought of it. Try an experiment in sleep deprivation. You will soon be out of your mind. I know memories are hardwired into your brain while you sleep. Everything is organized and sorted and your brain does a quick defrag. By staying awake you don't allow your brain to do this and everything builds up and you go nuts, until you sleep
 
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jimmie said:
Actually, you brought up a good point.
With all the advertising of products going on in the media, billions of dollars being spent to present you with thousands of TV ads, how many ads can an individual actually remember?
As many as they are inclined to. I wouldn't care to remember a commercial about disposable diapers because that's not something I want or need. Does the diaper company care if a childless person doesn't remember their commercial? No.
 
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Evo said:
There are people with brain damage that have lost their short term memory and can only remember the past.
As opposed to the rest of us who can remember the future? :confused:
 
  • #26
jimmie said:
Uhhh...yeah.
If that were true, I would be the first dude buying a Snickers and Coke.
Mind you, it's not like I never ate that stuff. In fact, I still remember the ad for Coke, which i drank, back in the early 80's with the crying Indian. That file/memory should have deleted a long time ago.
That's because you were still consuming caffeine at the time, so the memory could stick without causing any overload. :biggrin: :smile:

Moonbear, you've probably been saving that one for while to spring it on me at the right time, eh?

Who, me? o:) :rolleyes: Maybe. :biggrin:
 
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LMAO, very funny. its like "Let me show you a picture of me when I was younger."
 
  • #28
Danger said:
As opposed to the rest of us who can remember the future? :confused:
Are you saying you can't?

I mean the distant past. People with short term memory loss are fascinating...and unfortunate.
 
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Are you experiencing some kind of problem?

I find it a little disturbing that people think it is "normal" for a society to be built upon the media, which is dependant upon selling ads for products, all the while deluging individuals with information that is not required.

I understand that the world needs politics, but, did we really need to hear every little detail about the Clinton/Lewinsky thing?

Its not about remembering info or not, its about the process of mass-distributing information with the hope that some of it will "stick" to someone, somewhere.
 
  • #30
jimmie said:
I find it a little disturbing that people think it is "normal" for a society to be built upon the media, which is dependant upon selling ads for products, all the while deluging individuals with information that is not required.
I understand that the world needs politics, but, did we really need to hear every little detail about the Clinton/Lewinsky thing?
You're free to turn off the TV or just not pay attention to it. That's what I do.
 
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ohh, I misunderstood I thought you were talking about science of the brain. you're just looking for something to complain about.
I like media. right now I'm watching tv, listening to an audio book and surfing the web. give me more, throw some crap my way and see if it sticks. If you don't like all the info turn off the tv and take a walk inside a dark closet.
 
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You're free to turn off the TV or just not pay attention to it. That's what I do.

I actually don't even have cable, or a dish. Just the internet.

Not paying attention to 'it' is something I have become accustomed to.

But, walk into the grocery store and there are the magazines at the check-out counter. Plus, the billboards going to the grocery store. Then, the little ads in the shopping carts at the grocery store.

Like, c'mon advertisers, give us a break.

I think the current method of mass-distributing information has de-sensitized individuals and made them re-active. People have become so accustomed to "new" info that they seek it out, even if it is not there.

Even I have lurked time to time at PF to see what "new" threads there are.

I think I, and many individuals, have been lulled into a sense of complacency.
 
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jimmie said:
But, walk into the grocery store and there are the magazines at the check-out counter. Plus, the billboards going to the grocery store. Then, the little ads in the shopping carts at the grocery store.
That's nothing new. Do you know that in Pompei advertisements were painted on the outside walls of buildings? You don't think advertising is something recent, do you?

I think the current method of mass-distributing information has de-sensitized individuals and made them re-active. People have become so accustomed to "new" info that they seek it out, even if it is not there.
I don't.

I think I, and many individuals, have been lulled into a sense of complacency.
I can't relate to that. "I" decide what's important to me and what I pay attention to.
 
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Geeze, yomamma is being rough on trib. I guess wearing that ribbon means that you have to be funny all the time.
 
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That's why I've come back. I can't let someone else get this ribbon. The pressure is just too great and a lesser man or woman could be seriously hurt.
 
  • #36
I don't want the funniest member award, too much pressure.
 
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jimmie said:
I actually don't even have cable, or a dish. Just the internet.
Not paying attention to 'it' is something I have become accustomed to.
I didn't have cable until recently, and only because I couldn't even get the basic networks on rabbit ears (plus I needed to get cable to get my internet...big pain, but now I'm glad I have high speed).

But, walk into the grocery store and there are the magazines at the check-out counter. Plus, the billboards going to the grocery store. Then, the little ads in the shopping carts at the grocery store.
Like, c'mon advertisers, give us a break.
I hardly ever notice them. I think I spend more time staring at the candy next to the register and to the other strange people in the store than to the magazines. Actually, the last time I remember looking at magazines in the store was when I was still living in NJ...the grocery store lines could get very long there (much higher population than anyplace I've lived since), so you'd notice everything simply out of boredom. It was better than staring at your toes. I don't even know if the grocery stores still have the ads on the carts. I don't remember noticing them in a while. I think I noticed when they were brand new, but not since then.

I think the current method of mass-distributing information has de-sensitized individuals and made them re-active. People have become so accustomed to "new" info that they seek it out, even if it is not there.
That wouldn't be desensitized the way you're describing it...desensitized would mean you're less reactive. I think the more it's around, the less you react to it. Everything just blends together and it gets easier to ignore it when it doesn't jump out as anything special. Who seeks it out? Right now, I'm hanging out in a hotel room with nothing but the TV and my computer, and every time I look at the TV, I realize a different show is on...forget noticing commercials, I'm not even noticing the shows that are on because I've been focused on the computer.

Even I have lurked time to time at PF to see what "new" threads there are.
I think I, and many individuals, have been lulled into a sense of complacency.
What would seeking new threads of interest to you have to do with complacency or information overload or advertising?
 
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yomamma said:
I don't want the funniest member award, too much pressure.
I'm pretty sure you have nothing to worry about
 
  • #39
tribdog said:
I'm pretty sure you have nothing to worry about
great, and maybe Danger can relieve you of some pressure
 
  • #40
I've got some pressure you can relieve. you got purdy lips
 
  • #41
no way. Humans are perfectly capable of retaining and understanding massive amounts of information. I myself am constantly amazed at how much I can remember when I actually care to... and even when I don't (hell I still remember my phone number from when I was 6 years old, 229-5729)
 
  • #42
jimmie said:
With all the advertising of products going on in the media, billions of dollars being spent to present you with thousands of TV ads, how many ads can an individual actually remember?
You guys realize that the whole point of commericals is that they're NOT remembered, right?

Their message goes right past our conscious mind and is stored as an association between a brand identity and a feeling (i.e. a positive one).

When you go to the store next, and you're tired and in a hurry and the kids are biting your ankles, and you reach for a tube of toothpaste, you will, by and large, without thinking about it, grab the one that your mind is most "comfortable" or "familiar" with.

Which one you grab is, other things being equal, a result of how well the marketing team did their job.

The information overload actually helps them, because it inhibits our rational, conscious minds from stopping long enough to ask "which of these tubes of toothpaste is the BEST one?"
 
  • #43
You guys realize that the whole point of commericals is that they're NOT remembered, right

Yes. The problem, like I said, is that sometimes they do get remembered, taking up valuable space on my "harddrive".

The information overload actually helps them, because it inhibits our rational, conscious minds from stopping long enough to ask "which of these tubes of toothpaste is the BEST one?"

Exactly!

And to take that a bit further, are ANY of the tubes of toothpaste presented in front of me the "best" one?

The democratic process dictates that so long as one of the tubes of toothpaste are chosen, the democratic system has succeeded.

I would like to think that the actual, undeniable "best" tube of toothpaste would be aware of the possibility of how information overload inhibits the rational, conscious mind, and thus, would not submit itself to the far too common practice of touting itself to individuals as the best "candidate", not to mention camparing itself to other "candidates" of toothpaste.

Such a democratic process of pitching wares, including toothpaste, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 
  • #44
jimmie said:
The news media makes its living by providing those details. And I sometimes think its at the expense of a calm mind.

This is exactly why I don't watch any commercials if I can avoid them. I remember watching television at a friend's house once after not watching television for a long time. It was nearly painful how clouded my mind became after little over an hour.
 
  • #45
DaveC426913 said:
When you go to the store next, and you're tired and in a hurry and the kids are biting your ankles, and you reach for a tube of toothpaste, you will, by and large, without thinking about it, grab the one that your mind is most "comfortable" or "familiar" with.
Am I the only person who actually stands in front of the toothpaste aisle baffled at the amazing variety of toothpastes now available, reading every friggin' label, hunting for the ones that are ADA approved (it used to be that they all were and I used to wonder why people made such a big deal of checking for that label...well, watch out, because a lot of the new ones with odd flavors, etc., aren't ADA approved), comparing prices and sizes? Just pick one based on a commercial or shiny label? Heck no!
 
  • #46
Once I find a brand that I like (usually really inexpensive no-name stuff that's as good as the national brands), I just stick with it. I'm immune to ads.
 
  • #47
Danger said:
Once I find a brand that I like (usually really inexpensive no-name stuff that's as good as the national brands), I just stick with it. I'm immune to ads.
I can hardly find my "regular" toothpaste amidst the whole aisle of toothpastes now! Part of the problem I run into is that I keep moving, so the generic brands are different from store to store and region to region. I can't just find one of those and stick with it (I've also run into times when the generic brand wasn't cheaper than the name brand...it was just more diluted so actually cost more, or when it was cheaper to buy small bottles or individual items rather than the bulk pack).

Then again, I'm still trying to figure out the craziness behind the grocery store's layout here. I hunted all over for breadcrumbs last week, and finally found them next to the bread. To me, breadcrumbs are a baking need and should be in the aisle with flour, spices and cooking oil. Then, they have an "ethnic foods" aisle, which includes Italian, and they put all the canned tomatoes in that aisle along with pasta...last I checked, canned tomatoes were a canned vegetable, and weren't exclusively consumed by Italians. And I think pasta and rice belong together, not separated by ethnicity. Oh, and the real fun one is that ethnic aisle has a "Mexican" food section (which is not just Mexican...the store manager needs a lesson on world cultures I think), and they put some of the canned beans there...the ones with Spanish-sounding brand names...and some of them in the canned vegetable aisle. Grrr. Yet, the beans with the Italian-sounding brand name were in the canned vegetable aisle, not the Italian foods section. Oh, and then the processed cheeses are over in the dairy case (near the yogurt and butter) all the way on the far side of the store, while the fancy, good cheeses (and some not-so-fancy ones...don't ask me, I'm not sure what divides them from the other cheeses) are in a case on the complete other side of the store near the produce and meats. I understand the reasoning of putting dairy at one end and produce and meats at the other...it forces the shopper to walk through the rest of the store when they run in for staple items in the hopes they'll buy something else, but why divide cheese between two ends of the store? It's either dairy or it isn't.

I'm not sure advertising works as well when grocery shopping is a scavenger-hunt type experience. Product placement might be a bigger issue, though if that brand of beans that's in the ethnic food aisle thinks they'll do better there, they're sure missing out on a lot of buyers who don't even look in that aisle (I don't think of looking in an ethnic food aisle for beans, I think of looking there for ingredients almost exclusively used for cooking for that particular ethnicity, though even then, I'd prefer if they just put those in the proper aisles, such as soy sauce or tahini in the aisle with the other sauces). And of course we all know that if you want a type of breakfast cereal that isn't sugar-laden with cartoon characters on the box and prizes inside, you have to look at the top shelf.
 
  • #48
Danger said:
Once I find a brand that I like (usually really inexpensive no-name stuff that's as good as the national brands), I just stick with it. I'm immune to ads.
Yup. Brand loyalty is why they compete so hard. Once a brand is chosen, it's almost impossible to get someone to change.

But don't fool yourself into thinking you're immune. People are always having to buy things they haven't bought in a while. That's the moment they're waiting for.
 
  • #49
Moonbear said:
I understand the reasoning of putting dairy at one end and produce and meats at the other...it forces the shopper to walk through the rest of the store...
Actually, I'm fairly sure that the overriding reason is because Jewish law prohibits putting meat and dairy near each other.
 
  • #50
Moonbear said:
last I checked, canned tomatoes were a canned vegetable
And you're a biologist, you say? :-p

Although the idiots in your Supreme Court ruled it a vegetable for taxation purposes...
 
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