Is it wrong to eat a sandwich in front of a starving person?

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The discussion revolves around moral obligations regarding sharing resources, particularly in scenarios involving sandwiches and wealth. Participants debate whether one is morally required to share food with a starving person or if billionaires should contribute to alleviating hunger. Opinions vary widely, with some asserting a moral obligation to share based on cultural or religious beliefs, while others argue that personal responsibility and individual moral codes dictate otherwise. The conversation also touches on the complexities of charity, suggesting that motivations for giving can be self-serving rather than altruistic. Some participants emphasize the importance of context, questioning the circumstances that lead to starvation and the effectiveness of charitable contributions. Overall, the thread highlights diverse perspectives on morality, wealth distribution, and the nature of charity.
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Q1: If you have two sandwiches, and you are in the presence of a starving person, are you morally obligated to give at least one sandwich to that person?

Q2: If you a billionaire, and starving human beings exist, are you morally obligated to contribute millions of dollars to feeding them (since you can afford it)?

Q3: In general, is it wrong to not share your wealth?
 
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depends on where you get your morals. if you get them from the bible or something yes its wrong in both cases to not share. if you get your morals from an ayn rand book then no it's not wrong, it's right to not share
 
Let me clarify, I'm not asking these question so I will know how to conduct my life. I'm asking them because I am curious about the personal moral code of members of the forum.
 
Surrealist said:
Let me clarify, I'm not asking these question so I will know how to conduct my life. I'm asking them because I am curious about the personal moral code of members of the forum.

What kind of answers do you actually expect?
 
First I'd be asking myself how I could be eating a sandwich in front of a starving person. Why is this person starving? Were they locked up by some deranged person and had no access to food and I just happened to stumble upon them and happened to be eating a sandwich?

Ok, I'm being facetious. I wouldn't eat my sandwich in front of a starving person, I'd call for help, then I'd eat my sandwich, because if a person is really starving, suddenly eating solid food could make them ill. They need to be assessed by a medical team and given proper nutrients and fluids.
 
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Evo said:
First I'd be asking myself how I could be eating a sandwich in front of a starving person. Why is this person starving? Were they locked up by some deranged person and had no access to food and I just happened to stumble upon them and happened to be eating a sandwich?

Maybe the situation has arose from them not liking the sandwich I am eating in front of them.
 
Delta said:
Maybe the situation has arose from them not liking the sandwich I am eating in front of them.
Could be! Perhaps they may be allergic to what is in my sandwich and it could put them into anaphylactic shock.
 
Surrealist said:
Q1: If you have two sandwiches, and you are in the presence of a starving person, are you morally obligated to give at least one sandwich to that person?
That would depend on how you look at life, morals differ by culture.

Q2: If you a billionaire, and starving human beings exist, are you morally obligated to contribute millions of dollars to feeding them (since you can afford it)?
No, or see answer to above.

Q3: In general, is it wrong to not share your wealth?
No.
 
Surrealist said:
Is it wrong to eat a sandwich in front of a starving person?

Yes. You must stand to the side.

Q1: If you have two sandwiches, and you are in the presence of a starving person, are you morally obligated to give at least one sandwich to that person?

No. Your moral obligation is only proportional to your relative masses.

Q2: If you a billionaire, and starving human beings exist, are you morally obligated to contribute millions of dollars to feeding them (since you can afford it)?

Yes, if you are a billionaire, but not if I am.

Q3: In general, is it wrong to not share your wealth?

No, if you had shared it then it would not be your wealth.

I am curious about the personal moral code of members of the forum.

My curiosity is more about their sense of humor. :biggrin:
 
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out of whack said:
Yes. You must stand to the side.



No. Your moral obligation is only proportional to your relative masses.



Yes, if you are a billionaire, but not if I am.



No, if you had shared it then it would not be your wealth.



My curiosity is more about their sense of humor. :biggrin:

lol (wtf minimum post requirement)
 
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A1. Yes. You are morally obligated to give them both of your sandwichs. The exception would be if you, yourself, were also starving. You're saying that the person might seriously die from starvation, right?

A2. No. You could use your money to do any number of things that could be just as or even more helpful. Also, sometimes attempts to help can cause harm. This might be the case if the starvation was caused not by lack of food, but by lack of infrastructure.

A3. As Evo said

That would depend on how you look at life, morals differ by culture.
 
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I don't believe in individual responsibility. I'd say it's the our moral obligation to force the billionaire to share. Though, that's dumbing it down. Reading that back to myself I realize I come off as a Socialist, I'm very different from a Socialist. Socialists are boring.
 
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dimensionless said:
A1. Yes. You are morally obligated to give them both of your sandwichs. The exception would be if you, yourself, were also starving. You're saying that the person might seriously die from starvation, right?

A2. No. You could use your money to do any number of things that could be just as or even more helpful. Also, sometimes attempts to help can cause harm. This might be the case if the starvation was caused not by lack of food, but by lack of infrastructure.


You guys are taking the questions too literally. I don't necessarily mean "sandwiches"... and when I say "contribute millions of dollars to feeding" that does include developing infrastructure.

I am always amused at how people incorporate "proximity" into their personal moral code.

By the rationale of many... if you know that someone is starving, and you simply avoid being in the presence of that person, then you are not morally obligated to give them a "sandwich" (and I mean that figuratively). Likewise, if you are a billionaire, and you simply avoid taking any trips to Somalia (or another place where people do not have enough to eat), then you don't have to worry about giving anyone anything.

So, I conclude that charity has more to do with how a person feels about themself than the concern that person has for the well being of others.
 
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Smurf said:
I don't believe in individual responsibility. I'd say it's the our moral obligation to force the billionaire to share. Though, that's dumbing it down. Reading that back to myself I realize I come off as a Socialist, I'm very different from a Socialist. Socialists are boring.

No, you sound more like a French revolutionary, from the proletariat, to me.
 
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Surrealist said:
So, I conclude that charity has more to do with how a person feels about themself than the concern that person has for the well being of others.
That's probably fairly accurate.

A lot of wealthy people give money to charity for tax write offs, to gain populartity in their social circle or to gain access to a social circle, as a publicity stunt, or because they have way too much money and don't know what else to do (rich celebrities). That doesn't mean that some don't actually have the desire to help, it's just usually not the driving force.

And sometimes what on the surface seems the right thing to do (handing a sandwich to a starving person), can be the worst possible thing to do. :redface:
 
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Surrealist said:
No, you sound more like a French revolutionary, from the proletariat, to me.

sounds like rousseau to me
 
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Evo said:
A lot of wealthy people give money to charity for tax write offs, to gain populartity in their social circle or to gain access to a social circle, as a publicity stunt, or because they have way too much money and don't know what else to do (rich celebrities). That doesn't mean that some don't actually have the desire to help, it's just usually not the driving force.

Yeah, like that time Madonna tried to adopt an African baby in order to out-do Angelina Jolie and adopting of a Chinese baby.
 
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Surrealist said:
Q1: If you have two sandwiches, and you are in the presence of a starving person, are you morally obligated to give at least one sandwich to that person?

Q2: If you a billionaire, and starving human beings exist, are you morally obligated to contribute millions of dollars to feeding them (since you can afford it)?

Q3: In general, is it wrong to not share your wealth?

I haven't read any responses yet, this is my initial take on the questions.

Q1 - Morally, Yes. Is it wrong not to? No, but very mean, IMO.
Q2 - Morally, Yes. Is it wrong not to? No.
Q3 - No, it is not wrong. It is your wealth, yours to do what you will.

Interesting set of questions. It made me think. I appreciate it, it allowed me to make some definitions for myself.
 
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Surrealist said:
Q1: If you have two sandwiches, and you are in the presence of a starving person, are you morally obligated to give at least one sandwich to that person?

Q2: If you a billionaire, and starving human beings exist, are you morally obligated to contribute millions of dollars to feeding them (since you can afford it)?

Q3: In general, is it wrong to not share your wealth?
Interesting questions/hypotheticals.

A1. If I were to encounter a starving person, I would be obliged to help. I certainly would not eat in front of them. Along the lines of Evo's comments, giving a starving person a sandwich may not be good for them at the moment.

A2. Even without being a billionaire, I am obliged to relief to those who suffer. Certainly with billions of dollars, one could develop a program to provide assistance to those in need. Whether or not it would be effective is another question.

A3. Is it wrong to be selfish?

Personally, I have no need of great wealth. I don't particularly care for expensive luxuries. I prefer a modest lifestyle.
 
  • #20
Logical fallacy: faulty analogy.

Show that eating a sandwich is analagous to having lots of money.
Show that handing a sandwich to a starving person is analagous to giving money to them.

There are plenty of assumptions in there.
 
  • #21
He's taking a poll... there's no analogy.
 
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