Is Math the Secret Ingredient in Your Favorite Movies?

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The discussion revolves around differing opinions on movie ratings and reviews, particularly focusing on the subjective nature of these ratings. Participants express frustration over perceived inconsistencies in ratings, noting that some movies are rated higher or lower than they believe they should be, leading to debates about the criteria used for these ratings. One user emphasizes that their ratings are based on personal experience rather than objective criteria, while others point out specific films where they disagree with the ratings given. The conversation also touches on the impact of actors' personal lives on their film appeal, particularly regarding Tom Cruise, and how this influences viewing choices. Additionally, there are humorous exchanges about the nature of movie reviews and the challenges of comparing remakes to original films. Overall, the thread highlights the subjective nature of film appreciation and the varied perspectives that contribute to discussions about cinema.
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This thread was split off a thread in Gen Math.. Interesting discussion... but it aint math!
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BTW, for those interested, my reviews and ratings page is http://www.davesbrain.ca/reviews.php" . It is database driven, and I am rather proud of it.




Well, I don't care much for you're taste in films.
 
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DeadWolfe said:
Well, I don't care much for you're taste in films.
That makes me sad and frowny-faced.
 
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If I were sad i would add this :frown:

I think I understand what DeadWolfe is saying, you rated certain movies higher than he/she would have given while others that he/she liked better, you gave a lower rating. I felt the same way. Are you using objective criteria to generate your rating or is it purely subjective?
 
Ouabache said:
If I were sad i would add this :frown:
Yabut there's no sarcastic face.
Ouabache said:
I think I understand what DeadWolfe is saying, you rated certain movies higher than he/she would have given while others that he/she liked better, you gave a lower rating.
Yah, I sort of got that.

Ouabache said:
I felt the same way. Are you using objective criteria to generate your rating or is it purely subjective?
Purely subjective. Rated entirely experientially. Applause=5. Squirming=1. Oh, and there's one movie that got 'unratable'. I try never to turn off a movie once I've started it, but some are just too painful to finish.
 
What the hell, you rated fahrenheit 9/11 awfully high and waking life awfully lowLooking through your reviews, I realize that we have completely opposite views on movies. I haven't found a single movie rating I agree with. WOW

EDIT: I agree with your "Crash" rating :D

EDIT2: You thought police academy was lame? Jeez
 
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DeadWolfe said:
Well, I don't care much for you're taste in films.

What's wrong with pornography?
 
Some pretty nice photography.
 
Pornography, photography, mediocrity...
 
Ouabache said:
I think I understand what DeadWolfe is saying, you rated certain movies higher than he/she would have given while others that he/she liked better, you gave a lower rating.

Yeah, and the worst part was when he said that he totally liked one movie, but then trashed another one. Such hypocrisy.
 
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moose said:
What the hell, you rated fahrenheit 9/11 awfully high and waking life awfully low
Waking Life had great animation - I was really intrigued by it - fort he first half hour. But after an hour and a half of angst that felt like it was squeezed out of a play-doh mold, ("Excuse me" "Stop. Wait. I really want to have a moment with you that isn't an anonymous two ships passing in the night. Oh the angst of it all...") I kept thinking it should have stayed 20 minutes long.
moose said:
Looking through your reviews, I realize that we have completely opposite views on movies. I haven't found a single movie rating I agree with. WOW
My kids go ape over these new movies that are awful, uninspired photocopies of better-done movies. They can't imagine why we don't find them intriguing. It's not that we're not into it, it's that we've seen it a thousand times before, and there's nothing new.
moose said:
EDIT: I agree with your "Crash" rating :D
That's the '04 one, not the '96 Cronenberg one.
moose said:
EDIT2: You thought police academy was lame? Jeez
OK, I oversimplified there. The first one was hilarious. The rest squeezed the life out of the exact same jokes until they were wrinkly, prunified old crack-hags.
 
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nice site.. php's cool
 
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I haven't seen nearly as many movies as you have, but of the ones I've seen, I agree with most of the ratings. I'd have given Charlie and the Chocolate Factory one more star though. I liked the dark, psychologically twisted character of Willy Wonka in the new version, though, was horrified at what they did to the Oompa Loompas, giving them all the same face and making them wear some furturistic vinyl outfits, and then giving them those awful songs with horrid choreography...the Oompa Loompas are what spoiled it for me. It's hard to evaluate a remake of an old classic when you want to compare it to the old movie. The old one was fun and a kid's classic, the new one is darker/creepier and something I don't think I'd let kids watch actually. I just wish that since they deviated so much from the original story, that they had just kept going all the way and made Willy Wonka a much more twisted character.
 
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I liked the dark, psychologically twisted character of Willy Wonka in the new version

Me too, its not a coicedence that the same director also directed Edward sissor hands..
 
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Moonbear said:
I just wish that since they deviated so much from the original story, that they had just kept going all the way and made Willy Wonka a much more twisted character.
Agreed. He was good to watch, but he played a one-note song in this one.

Anttech said:
Me too, its not a coicedence that the same director also directed Edward sissor hands..
Yep. Any many others that had great looks but a story that didn't know what it wanted to be.

As I say in my CatCF review:

"Tim Burton is a great, great visionary, and an incredible Art Director. But he should not be directing films. He needs to be on a leash."
 
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I'd definitely have to agree with your asessment of "The Corporation". Everyone should see that one.
 
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I pretty much agree with his ratings. Except he needs to add another star, there should not be that many top rated movies. the only ratings wrong as far as I can see (out of the first 20 movies)
Team America-4 stars not 3
Sky High 3 stars not 4
War of the World 3 stars definitely not 5
Star Wars ROTS 4 stars not 5
The only five star movies I agree with is probably The Incredibles, most of the rest should be 4
 
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tribdog said:
Team America-4 stars not 3
Ah, it was cute and corny, but forgettable. As per my rating system, it was pretty much what I was expecting.
tribdog said:
War of the World 3 stars definitely not 5
Star Wars ROTS 4 stars not 5
The only five star movies I agree with is probably The Incredibles, most of the rest should be 4
True. I am a pretty forgiving moviegoer, not a curmedgeon.

To see why I rated WotW so high, read the review.
 
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Team america got its highest ratings from the puppetry, I agree, 4 stars
 
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What website is everyone talking about and what moron would give War of the worlds anything more then a 3?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
To see why I rated WotW so high, read the review.
ahh, you see, here's the rub. I don't care why you rated it so high. I didn't like the movie. I don't go to ratings to be told why a movie deserves a certain score, I go to ratings to find out if a movie is good.
 
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War of the Worlds is still unrated for me. I don't care if it got 5 stars, I'm still not seeing another movie staring Tom Cruise after his idiotic remarks about depression and psychiatry. He was already an unremarkable actor in my book, and that nonsense sent him into major negative points in my book.
 
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lol, don't see his movies then. That'll teach him a lesson...in psychiatry.
 
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Moonbear said:
War of the Worlds is still unrated for me. I don't care if it got 5 stars, I'm still not seeing another movie staring Tom Cruise after his idiotic remarks about depression and psychiatry. He was already an unremarkable actor in my book, and that nonsense sent him into major negative points in my book.

Send him a letter saying that you are too depressed to see the movie
 
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tribdog said:
ahh, you see, here's the rub. I don't care why you rated it so high. I didn't like the movie. I don't go to ratings to be told why a movie deserves a certain score, I go to ratings to find out if a movie is good.
That's why I don't usually decide which movies to see based on reviews. The critics are rating them based on things like cinematography and directing, I just want to know if I'm going to be able to forget about the real world for about 2 hours and laugh, cry, or jump into the arms of the nearest guy (though that last one doesn't have much to do with the movies :blushing:).
 
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Wanna go to the movies?
 
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Pengwuino said:
Send him a letter saying that you are too depressed to see the movie
At the time, I did send an email to the movie studio telling them why I wasn't seeing it. I don't know if they cared, but I figured not seeing a movie doesn't mean much if they don't know why I'm not seeing it or that I might have seen if it they chose a less controversial actor. Basically, I wanted to let them know that there IS a such thing as negative publicity, so they can't count on letting controversy like that boost their sales. I wouldn't mind at all seeing Tom Cruise become a washed-up has-been.
 
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tribdog said:
Wanna go to the movies?
Can we act like two crazy teenagers? :biggrin:
 
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Moonbear said:
At the time, I did send an email to the movie studio telling them why I wasn't seeing it. I don't know if they cared, but I figured not seeing a movie doesn't mean much if they don't know why I'm not seeing it or that I might have seen if it they chose a less controversial actor. Basically, I wanted to let them know that there IS a such thing as negative publicity, so they can't count on letting controversy like that boost their sales. I wouldn't mind at all seeing Tom Cruise become a washed-up has-been.

Oh I'm sure the studio saw the interview and thought "oh my god... what is he doing". The idiot put me off a long time ago, he's always saying stupid crap.
 
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moonbear said:
Can we act like two crazy teenagers?
physically or mentally? cause I'm not sure I can contort myself quite like i used to and I definitely know some parts of me are a lot less hyperactive than they were in my teens
 
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Moonbear said:
Can we act like two crazy teenagers? :biggrin:



Moonbear! I will, I will! I'm technically still a teenager so I'll do a much better job then that other loser!
 
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see what I mean?
 
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Pengwuino said:
Moonbear! I will, I will! I'm technically still a teenager so I'll do a much better job then that other loser!
Didn't I tell you that you have to buy my plane ticket to CA first? :biggrin: Oh, geez, wait, you're nearly half my age, aren't you? Shouldn't you be grossed out by the thought of such things with someone as old as me? :smile: I don't think I have the energy to keep up with a real teenager. (You're still over 18, right? Otherwise this conversation never happened. :rolleyes: )
 
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Gosh how old are you :|
 
  • #34
that's 58 in penguin years
 
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Pengwuino said:
Gosh how old are you :|
34 (I did say ALMOST half my age). It doesn't feel old to me now, but I know when I was still in my teens, that age sure sounded old then.
 
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I dunno... buy me a beaker and I'm all for it :biggrin: :biggrin:
 
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34? my gawd, careful you don't break a hip
 
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I don't think Tribdog will be posting tomorrow
 
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no kidding, I need to take a day off just to get the picture of a "Beaker" which I think has something to do with penguins and oral sex, out of my head.
 
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tribdog said:
ahh, you see, here's the rub. I don't care why you rated it so high. I didn't like the movie. I don't go to ratings to be told why a movie deserves a certain score, I go to ratings to find out if a movie is good.
OK, good point. I'll concede on that. Although in my defense, (I think) I'm with you on the how one rates. I don't really rate in the form of a "critique", I rate a 5 if I applauded at the end, and a 1 of I booed. The actual critique is secondary and is quite difficult to write mostly. Lately, I've given up and just posted the rating.

Moonbear said:
...not seeing another movie staring Tom Cruise ...
One of the things I liked about it was that is wasn't a Tom Cruise movie. At least, I've never before seen him a blind-terriified, cowardly shlub running so pell-mell for his very life as to not have any time to be a hero...

But I'll concede on your boycott.


BTW, you can afford to cut him some slack. He's going to fall very, VERY hard when the signed Contract-to-act-as-my-beard,-my-girlfriend-and-the-mother-of-my-child eventually leaks out.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
BTW, you can afford to cut him some slack. He's going to fall very, VERY hard when the signed Contract-to-act-as-my-beard,-my-girlfriend-and-the-mother-of-my-child eventually leaks out.
I give this comment one star out of five.
Critique: While this post was filled with hyphens, even they couldn't save it from the dismal darkeness of incomprehensibility. I found the ending not only unsatisfying but unintelligible. And I walked way saddened for the 45 seconds of my life wasted in trying to figure out what it means.
 
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Come to the meetings man! :rolleyes:


Tom interviewed several starlets to play the role of his girlfriend. The winner, Katie Holmes, is now pregnant - which is phase II of the sham. It is all a ruse to buoy his waning celebrity status. And it (may be) intended to hide this male sex symbol's true orientation.

When all this comes out, his star power will crash and burn.
 
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no it won't. We are talking Hollywood here. If being a crazy scientologist hasn't hurt him being a homosexual sure isn't going to. Heck, if he wasn't so crazy I'd probably blow him and I'm not even gay.
 
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tribdog said:
no it won't. We are talking Hollywood here. If being a crazy scientologist hasn't hurt him being a homosexual sure isn't going to. Heck, if he wasn't so crazy I'd probably blow him and I'm not even gay.
If he were a symbol of Christianity, and got himself baptized and then ordained in public, and then the world found out he was a Scientologist posing as a Christian - yeah, I'm thinkin' he would be rather less popular in the eyes of Christian movie-goers.
 
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Yeah, there's some movies there that are rated quite differently to how I'd rate. Oh well that's personal preferences.

One though that particularly struck me was your rating of School of Rock. Well not so much the rating (I really enjoyed that movie btw) but the actual review. I seems that you reviewed a completely different movie there. Has there been more than one movie named "School of Rock" recently or did the video store put the wrong title in your movie jacket or something?

"Synopsis: A man recaptures his college days by starting a frat house.
Review: Suffered badly from Variety Show Sketch Syndrome - this was a twenty minute sketch blown up into two hours. Literally: the first twenty minutes were quite funny, and then the rest of the movie was really lame. Really lame. eg.1: The climactic action involved a bit-part character wallking up the the lead, introducing herself, and handing him an audio tape. eg.2: The subplot romantic interest, after a misunderstanding and stepping out of the picture, just stepped back in - the lead asked what happened and she told him the misunderstanding (i.e. what should have been the obligatory scene leading to their reconciliation actually happened entirely off-screen).

Man that review bares absolutely no relation to the the "School of Rock" movie (starring Jack Black) that I saw. I guess one of the reasons that I liked this movie so much was because I was expecting very little. I thought it was going to be some kind of lame teen movie of something, but I found it very funny and very enjoyable. Probably one of my favorite movies of the last 12 months.
 
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Ack! You were reading the review for a completely different movie! That was Old School. It was entered with the same date as School of Rock, so the query mixed up the review. I've fixed it now.
http://www.davesbrain.ca/reviews.php?sort=D&dir=F&open=031002#031002" .
 
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I think the classification of Schindler's List as 'musical' is the highlight for me.
 

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haha I like the rundown of the rating system

"1 star : Terrible, stinky"

What is this guy, 8?
 
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The Schindler's List Musical..what an idea.

"Und now, ve have Amoen Goeth and his Stormtroopers in a delightful little dance number set to the glorious sounds of breaking glass in Oh schön Kristallnacht !"
 
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What's with all the high chick flick ratings?
 
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