I Is Mathematics Inherent in Nature or a Human Invention?

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Mathematics is seen as intricately connected to the laws of nature, raising questions about whether it is a human invention or an inherent aspect of the universe. The discussion suggests that mathematics may describe structures that exist across all possible universes, implying that it is fundamental to the logical consistency of any universe. The complexity of life necessitates "interesting" mathematical structures, supporting the view of mathematics as a science that explores comprehensible patterns. Furthermore, the objective nature of mathematical relations indicates that they are discovered rather than created, exemplified by the infinite complexity of the Mandelbrot set. The thread concludes with a note that philosophical discussions are not permitted in math forums.
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Why maths fit so priciously in our nature laws.
If it is created than why it is so fit ?.

Is maths was already in this universe from begning?
 
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Here is one possibility. Mathematics describes the structures that could arise in all possible universes. Assuming that each possible universe must at least be logically internally consistent, it will obey some sort of mathematics. Moreover, for a universe to support something "complicated" like life, the mathematical structures describing that universe will be "interesting".

This is partially why I view mathematics as an actual science - it is like studying the vast landscape of all structures that the human mind is capable of comprehending.

As for as whether mathematics is created or discovered, well, the logical relations of mathematics are objective, and that is all "real" has to mean. We discover these relations that were there, even if we had never thought of them. The structure of the Mandelbrot set is a good example - infinite complexity that is there even though we can never study all of it.

Update - it seems the same question is being considered here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-is-it-that-mathematics-describe-reality-so-well.873740/
 
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