Is Momentum Conserved When a Spring Unloads Between Two Masses?

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In the scenario of two masses connected by a string with a compressed spring between them, when the string is cut, the spring releases and pushes the masses apart. The total momentum before the release is zero, so the final momenta of the masses must also sum to zero, confirming momentum conservation. The kinetic energies of the masses will only be equal if their masses are the same; otherwise, they will differ based on their respective masses. The discussion highlights the need to apply the conservation of momentum and energy equations to find the velocities of the masses after the spring unloads. The next step involves substituting the derived velocity relationship into the energy equation to solve for the velocities.
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Let's say there are two masses, attached together by a string, and there's a compressed spring in between them. When the string in between is cut off, the spring unloads, pushing both masses in opposite directions.

My thinking:
1. Their momentums will be equal to each other.
Their momentum before the string is cut is equal to zero (because they were not moving). So the sum of their final momentums should be also zero.
2. Their kinetic energies will be equal to each other.
The spring unloads in both direction at equal rates, so I assume that their kinetic energies must also be equal. (I couldn't find a mathematical evidence in my Giancoli book to see if I am actually right)

Are my conclusions right?
 
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kyrillos said:
1. Their momentums will be equal to each other.
Their momentum before the string is cut is equal to zero (because they were not moving). So the sum of their final momentums should be also zero.
Yes, that is correct.

kyrillos said:
2. Their kinetic energies will be equal to each other.
The spring unloads in both direction at equal rates, so I assume that their kinetic energies must also be equal
This is only correct if the masses are equal. Can you think what will happen if the masses are not equal?
 
Dale said:
Yes, that is correct.

This is only correct if the masses are equal. Can you think what will happen if the masses are not equal?
Well:
0 = m1v1 + m2v2
v1 = -m2v2/m1

And:
0.5m1v12 + 0.5m2v22 = 0.5kx2

I don't know what to do next, since I also don't know the value of the elastic potential energy. Could you help me?
 
kyrillos said:
I don't know what to do next, since I also don't know the value of the elastic potential energy. Could you help me?
You can just leave the elastic potential energy as you have written it. So the next step is just to substitute

kyrillos said:
v1 = -m2v2/m1
into
kyrillos said:
0.5m1v12 + 0.5m2v22 = 0.5kx2
and then solve for the velocity.
 
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