Is My Approach to Solving Gauss' Law for a Cylindrical Shell Correct?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves applying Gauss' Law to a cylindrical shell with a uniform charge distribution. The original poster seeks to determine the net charge on the shell and the electric field at a point inside the shell.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the choice of Gaussian surfaces and the implications of the electric field at various points relative to the shell. There is uncertainty about the use of the shell's radius in calculations and whether the electric field inside the shell is zero.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations, suggesting areas for clarification and questioning the assumptions made regarding the Gaussian surface. There appears to be a productive exchange regarding the interpretation of the problem and the application of Gauss' Law.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the radius of the shell is relevant for part (b) of the problem, and there is an acknowledgment of the original poster's uncertainty about their approach.

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I really just want to know if I'm doing this correctly, as I don't have access to the answer to check.

Homework Statement



A cylindrical shell of radius 7.00 cm and length 240 cm has its charge uniformly distributed on its curved surface. The magnitude of the electric field at a point 19.0 cm radially outward from its axis (measured from the midpoint of the shell) is 36.0 kN/C. Find (a) the net charge on the shell and (b) the electric field at a point 4.00 cm from the axis, measured radially outward from the midpoint of the shell.

Homework Equations



\phi=4\pi kQ

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Because 19.0 cm is relatively close to the shell given its length of 240 cm, I chose a cylinder with radius of 0.19 m as my Gaussian surface. The electric field vector is parallel to the normal vector of the cylindrical surface at all points, so

\phi=EA=E2\pi (r-0.07 m)h=4\pi kQ \frac{h}{2.4 m}

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)E(r-0.07 m)}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.12 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=5.76 * 10^{-7} C

(b) A point 4.00 cm from the axis is within the shell itself since it has a radius of 7.00 cm. If I were to choose a cylinder of radius 0.04 m for a Gaussian surface, would the electric field not be zero since it would contain no charge within?

I'm really not sure if I'm modeling this correctly at all. Any help is appreciated.
 
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Hi Tentothe,

Tentothe said:

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Because 19.0 cm is relatively close to the shell given its length of 240 cm, I chose a cylinder with radius of 0.19 m as my Gaussian surface. The electric field vector is parallel to the normal vector of the cylindrical surface at all points, so

\phi=EA=E2\pi (r-0.07 m)h=4\pi kQ \frac{h}{2.4 m}

The area A is the area of the Gaussian surface, which is a cylinder with radius 19cm. Remember in this case we want the surface area of the curved part of the cylinder. Do you see what's not right in the above work?

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)E(r-0.07 m)}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.12 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=5.76 * 10^{-7} C

(b) A point 4.00 cm from the axis is within the shell itself since it has a radius of 7.00 cm. If I were to choose a cylinder of radius 0.04 m for a Gaussian surface, would the electric field not be zero since it would contain no charge within?

That sounds right to me.
 
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I'm guessing it's the radius that's throwing me here. I think I may have originally had it correct with:

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)Er}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.19 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=9.12 * 10^{-7} C

My thinking was that I'd made a mistake because the radius of the shell itself (7 cm) wasn't used anywhere in my answer, but it looks like that's really only there to help with part (b).
 
Tentothe said:
I'm guessing it's the radius that's throwing me here. I think I may have originally had it correct with:

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)Er}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.19 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=9.12 * 10^{-7} C

My thinking was that I'd made a mistake because the radius of the shell itself (7 cm) wasn't used anywhere in my answer, but it looks like that's really only there to help with part (b).


That looks right to me.
 
Thanks for your help!
 
Sure, glad to help!
 
Tentothe said:
I'm guessing it's the radius that's throwing me here. I think I may have originally had it correct with:

Q=\frac{(2.4 m)Er}{2k}=\frac{(2.4 m)(3.60 * 10^{4} N/C)(0.19 m)}{2(9 * 10^{9} Nm^{2}/C^{2})}=9.12 * 10^{-7} C

My thinking was that I'd made a mistake because the radius of the shell itself (7 cm) wasn't used anywhere in my answer, but it looks like that's really only there to help with part (b).

please help me for b
 

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