Is Our Future Predetermined or Do We Shape It Ourselves?

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The discussion centers around the philosophical debate of determinism versus free will, particularly in relation to the future and fate. Participants reflect on the concept that the future may be predetermined, as illustrated by a machine in the sci-fi series Red Dwarf that can predict future events. The conversation touches on the unpredictability of life, such as unforeseen accidents, and whether these events are part of a predetermined fate or the result of individual choices. Some contributors express a belief that both perspectives can coexist, suggesting that while certain aspects of fate may be written, individuals still have the agency to shape their own destinies. The dialogue also explores related themes like déjà vu and the influence of personal experiences on future outcomes. Overall, the thread delves into the complexities of understanding fate and free will in shaping the future.
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This is a big one. Who believes that our future's are not yet written and who believes that our fates are already written in time waiting to be told. I thought about this when I was watching an episode of the sci-fi series Red Dwarf, where they discuss the future and a there is a machine that can predict it with extraordinary accuracy. I mean who knows if we are going to be hit by a bus tommorrow, is it written our do we make our own fate? What are your thoughts and feelings towards the future and how it's written??
 
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Yeah something like that. Sort of like future echos. Sorry to have wasted time. lol get it!?
 
i'd thought about that ages ago as well...

...waves of thought reverberating thorugh the echoverse

with deja vu being the universe calculating a future event you will have based on extrapolating trends at the time of your conception and providing a snapshot in your consciousness which is probabaly outside of any 4d temporal reference...

like blipverts in commercial advertising. Remember the porn sequence inserted in fight club...
 
our own sexual-itty has smthin to do with our future
input of direct sexual synapses at right times evaluaete into enormous portions of energy as pathetic as its hard to imagine a world with NO SEX
 
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This is a big one. Who believes that our future's are not yet written and who believes that our fates are already written in time waiting to be told. I thought about this when I was watching an episode of the sci-fi series Red Dwarf, where they discuss the future and a there is a machine that can predict it with extraordinary accuracy. I mean who knows if we are going to be hit by a bus tommorrow, is it written our do we make our own fate? What are your thoughts and feelings towards the future and how it's written??
My subjective belief : Yes to both. It is written, and at the same time we do make our own fate (but the fate that we make was pre-determined) :smile:

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