Is Our Search for Extraterrestrial Life Pointless?

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The discussion centers around an essay by an Oxford professor that explores the implications of discovering extraterrestrial life, whether primitive or intelligent. A key point raised is skepticism towards the "Great Filter" hypothesis, which suggests that a critical step in the development of intelligent life has a high failure rate, explaining the absence of detectable advanced civilizations. The argument highlights that humanity has only been emitting recognizable signals for a brief period relative to our existence, suggesting that the inability to detect alien signals may stem from limitations in our current technology rather than a lack of intelligent life. The conversation also touches on the significance of finding microbial life on other celestial bodies, which could imply that life is more common in the universe, thereby increasing the likelihood of intelligent life emerging elsewhere. However, concerns are raised about our ability to detect such life, especially beyond a certain distance, as signals may blend into cosmic background noise. The discussion concludes with the notion that the universe may extend infinitely, potentially housing countless stars and life forms beyond our observable reach.
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I got sucked into reading this wild essay by an Oxford professor regarding the significance of finding life in space whether primitive or intelligent.

If you get sucked in too, and read six pages, would you agree with his startling conclusion or remain skeptical.

Why I hope the search for extraterrestrial life finds nothing.
Here's the essay: http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20569/page1/
 
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My take on this: it is just a discussion of the Drake Equation -
see Carl Sagan's discussion:


I do not buy the 'Great Filter' assumption - the idea that because we can't perceive any advanced technological intelligence near enough to make their presence known, there must be one step in the Drake Equation that has a failure rate approaching 1.0

During 0.1% of the time humans have existed (assuming the species is 100k years old)
we have been generating signals that somebody out there could see and recognize. This is about 100 years. So, 50 light years out, some civilization is enjoying the 'Beverly Hillbillies'

Plus, outside of some arbitrary radius, our current ability to perceive those alien signals drops to zero - pretend it is 2000 light years. Therefore, we could not "see" our own signals if we had another human outpost 2800 light years away. Rather, I think our Great Filter is the method we have for detecting intelligence - looking for radio signals - which is the problem, rather than life everywhere consistently finding an insurmountable barrier to survival. Not that there is any other available method...

Anyway, all of this is complete conjecture, with no supporting evidence, Roswell notwithstanding.
 
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It's good to see Carl Sagan on this issue.

The idea is if we find basic microbes on Mars, Europe, Titan or elsewhere, that would mean that life can arise much more easily in the universe, and hence the probability for intelligent life to arise somewhere in space goes up automatically. If that is so, and we haven't detected any signs of intelligent life, then the "great filter" has something in store for us. It's a sound idea, but it's founded on a premise that our technology would be able to detect a signal.

You are probably right, after 2000 lyr's, an RF signal would blend with the background thus rendering this hypothesis null.
 
waht said:
The idea is if we find basic microbes on Mars, Europe, Titan or elsewhere, that would mean that life can arise much more easily in the universe, and hence the probability for intelligent life to arise somewhere in space goes up automatically.
Does this mean we have doubts about finding intelligent life in Europe? :-p
 
Evo said:
Does this mean we have doubts about finding intelligent life in Europe? :-p

:eek:

ahh, I forgot to add "Union."
 
The universe might well extend infinitely far beyond the part that is observable by us, and it may contain infinitely many stars.
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