Is Ph.D. Graduate School possible for me?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of attending graduate school for a Ph.D. in Pure Mathematics, with a focus on the participant's academic background, GRE scores, and potential universities for acceptance. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on graduate school admissions, particularly in mathematics and related fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) expresses uncertainty about their chances of acceptance into a Ph.D. program, particularly at the University of Virginia, given their GPA and course history.
  • Some participants encourage the OP to apply, noting that graduate courses are beneficial and that acceptance is possible despite lower GPAs.
  • One participant shares their own experience of being accepted into a Ph.D. program with a lower GPA and emphasizes the importance of improvement in later years and research experience.
  • Another participant suggests that while Ivy League schools may be a stretch, there are still opportunities available in other Ph.D. programs, highlighting the value of determination and motivation over grades alone.
  • Concerns are raised about the OP's lack of research experience, but some argue that teaching experience may also be valuable for applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that it is possible for the OP to gain acceptance into a Ph.D. program, though opinions vary on the likelihood of acceptance into top-tier schools like Ivy League institutions. The discussion reflects a mix of encouragement and caution regarding the OP's academic background and experiences.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various factors that influence admissions decisions, including GPA trends, research experience, and personal motivation, but do not reach a consensus on the specific implications of the OP's academic record.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering graduate school in mathematics or related fields, particularly those with non-traditional academic backgrounds or lower GPAs.

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I am trying to get some feedback on my possibilities of attending Graduate School for a Ph.D in Pure Mathematics. Specifically, if it is possible... which universities can I expect to receive acceptance from. Which types? In specific, my highest goal is UVA, (University of Virginia). I have yet to fill in my more realistic options because I am not very familiar with University acceptance.

My record is as follows. I hope this is enough information.


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Undergraduate in Mathematics/Concentration in Teaching. Did not include Topology,Algebra, or Analysis.

GPA 3.25, including 3 F's in English, Pre-Calculus, and Intro to Programming. All repeated and passed, in specific... an A in Pre-Calculus.

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General GRE:
Math - 760
English - 530
Essay - 5

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Graduate Degree at the same university I attended for B.S.

Fall,
Intro Algebra - A
Intro Analysis 1 - B
Intro Topology - A
Methods of Appd. Mathematics 1- B

Spring,
Intro Analysis 2 - A
Complex Analysis Apps. - A
Methods of Appd. Mathematics 2- A
independent Study-Topology - A

Fall,
Real Analysis 1 - A
Algebra 1 - A
Advanced Linear Algebra - A

Spring,
Real Analysis 2 - A
Algebra 2 - A
independent Study- TBA A

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Subject GRE:

I will take it after preparation during the summer after my first Graduate M.S. year.

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I will also have good recommendations from professors.

I will not have very much research.

I will have taught lower-level classes at my University for 2 years of my M.S. study.

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Thank you

EDIT: I want to study mathematics because I love it and it's fun.

EDIT2: I want to let Universities know that I will (if they request) retake their Analysis, Topology, Algebra courses and add a couple years onto my graduation time. I assume that this is usually not what they want though. Since my B.S. and M.S. might be relatively "light" I want to do all that I can in order to get accepted somewhere.
 
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Hey you should definitely give it a shot. I think the graduate courses are great. Definitely apply!
 
Though I never got any Fs, I actually had a slightly lower GPA than you, about 3.1. I also only had a 42%-ile on the physics GRE. I ended up getting into a PhD program at a good graduate school, i.e. most of the people here had >3.5, and scored way better on the GRE, and one of my friends here even went to an ivy league school. Not sure why they picked me, but I ended up passing the PhD qualifier and have a 3.46 so far. I guess it goes to show that you can have not the best grades and still be successful as a PhD student.

Of course, there are a couple other things I should mention. Almost all of my bad grades were from my first couple of years. I ended up doing far better my last two years, getting A's and B's in all of my classes (except for graduate-level cosmology), and I had a lot of research experience too. Since you did an MS, you've got the research down. And it looks like your grades are excellent. I don't see why you couldn't get into a PhD program.
 
Probably wouldn't get into an Ivy league (still worth a shot though!), but there is definitely a place out there for you on a PhD program. You seem self motivated and you certainly have all the right courses. One of my colleagues on the physics PhD was a chemistry major and was on a Basoon scholarship, so he didn't have the 'right' background, but ended up doing really well.

I always say that its not the grades you get, but what you do with them. I've never really been an 'A-grade' student, but I'm determined and hard working and finally passed my PhD defense last week. If you put your mind to it...
 

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