Is Potential Constant on a Conductor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric potential in conductors, particularly focusing on whether the potential is constant throughout a connected conductor and the implications of defining the absolute value of potential. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding conductors and superconductors.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the potential at any point of an ideal conductor is the same, particularly in equilibrium.
  • Others note that the absolute value of the potential is not inherently meaningful, as it can be defined arbitrarily based on conventions.
  • One participant highlights that if charges are moving, there is a voltage drop along the conductor, indicating an electric potential difference.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of superconductors, stating that in such materials with constant current, there is no voltage drop despite current flow, contrasting with the behavior of normal conductors.
  • Another participant mentions that if charges are accelerating, an electric field is present, leading to a voltage drop.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the potential is the same at all points in an ideal conductor in equilibrium. However, there is disagreement regarding the implications of moving charges and the behavior of superconductors, indicating multiple competing views on the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of moving charges versus stationary charges in conductors and superconductors, nor does it clarify the definitions of potential in different contexts.

Sogan
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Hi,

I consider a connected conductor. Is it right, that:

1)the potential at any point of the conductor is the same, but

2)the absolute value of the potential isn't zero in general?

I think these statements are true, but I'm not sure about it, especially with the second statement.

Thank you a lot!

Regards
 
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1)the potential at any point of the conductor is the same
For an ideal conductor, yes.

2)the absolute value of the potential isn't zero in general?
This value has no meaning. You can define "zero" wherever you want. There are some conventions, depending on the setup, but they do not have a physical meaning themself.
 
Sogan said:
1)the potential at any point of the conductor is the same
mfb said:
For an ideal conductor, yes.

in equilibrium :wink:

(if charges are moving, ie if there is a current, then obviously there is a voltage drop along the conductor, ie an electric potential difference)
 
Thank you very much! Now I understood.
 
tiny-tim said:
(if charges are moving, ie if there is a current, then obviously there is a voltage drop along the conductor, ie an electric potential difference)
In superconductors with constant current, you have no voltage drop, even with a current flow.
If charges are accelerating, you have an electric field and therefore a voltage drop ;).
 

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