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Charles Brough
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I've been all over the world and traveled in 35 nations, lived in four and yet I never found a socialist nation! By that I mean one where the government rationed everything so all would get an equal amount of eveything and, therefore, where prices were not determined by supply and demand. Every nation has currency and it is always used for reflecting supply and demand. In no nation are people supplied according to need, every nation has a class structure, and in no nation are the common people soverign because they always have to have leaders who claim to represent them but who are financed by the rich.
What I am saying is that socialism is a theory, but not real economic system. It is an ideology. There are millions of socialists in the world and there are governments run by socialists, but there are no socialist nations. Socialism is a "cause" and huge tomes have been published which merely outling the history of the socialist MOVEMENT.
Are people thinking of communes when they speak of socialism? Unlike socialism, communes do have a definite history. Israel was established by Kibutzim communes which functioned very well. The people lived, worked and ate all together and there was no significant inequality of wealth. The decisions were made in common so that people were soverign. These communes worked well with the general capitalistic system which characterized the general Israeli economy.
The point is that capitalism and communism are able to work and function together in the same economy! Also, that it is not necessary for a dictatorship to set them up or impose them. All that is needed is a great deal of idealism and dedication. As that has dwindeled considerably in Israel, so have the size and importance of the communes to the state' economic system. They are being phased out just like communes were in Medieval Europe. As the manors turned into villages, the villages into towns with guilds, the abbeys and monks going into business, so has Israel changed.
One last point. Just as there is no real socialism, Marxism is also not communism. Communism is a communal economic system while Marxism a la Soviet Union and now East Asia is a secular religion.
charles
What I am saying is that socialism is a theory, but not real economic system. It is an ideology. There are millions of socialists in the world and there are governments run by socialists, but there are no socialist nations. Socialism is a "cause" and huge tomes have been published which merely outling the history of the socialist MOVEMENT.
Are people thinking of communes when they speak of socialism? Unlike socialism, communes do have a definite history. Israel was established by Kibutzim communes which functioned very well. The people lived, worked and ate all together and there was no significant inequality of wealth. The decisions were made in common so that people were soverign. These communes worked well with the general capitalistic system which characterized the general Israeli economy.
The point is that capitalism and communism are able to work and function together in the same economy! Also, that it is not necessary for a dictatorship to set them up or impose them. All that is needed is a great deal of idealism and dedication. As that has dwindeled considerably in Israel, so have the size and importance of the communes to the state' economic system. They are being phased out just like communes were in Medieval Europe. As the manors turned into villages, the villages into towns with guilds, the abbeys and monks going into business, so has Israel changed.
One last point. Just as there is no real socialism, Marxism is also not communism. Communism is a communal economic system while Marxism a la Soviet Union and now East Asia is a secular religion.
charles
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