Is SUSY theory necessary at this point?

In summary, some prominent particle theorists have already ruled out SUSY as being too complicated or unnatural, while others think it's still a viable theory.
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MichaelMo
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Is SUSY theory "necessary" at this point?

I have a question:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=beautiful-theory-collides

Based on the presumed energy state of the newly found Higgs Boson, is SUSY theory even necessary or beneficial in terms of explaining particle physics theory anymore? Apparently some of the "simplest" SUSY variations have already been eliminated. As I understand it, the Higgs was also found at an energy that may not even benefit very much from SUSY extensions. Is that actually the case?
 
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The Higgs was found at an energy that was ambiguous for SUSY. If its mass was lower it would almost certainly favor SUSY and SUSY would appear very natural. If it were much higher we could rule out SUSY as being unnatural. Its right in the middle and it could go either way right now.

SUSY is hardly necessary but its still beneficial. It's benefits are well known and include giving us dark matter candidates, stabilizing the Higgs at the weak scale (without susy the SM is terribly fine tuned or the Higgs is much heavier), and it gives gauge coupling unification. Besides that it makes some problems easier to work with in QFT

SUSY may or may not exist, we can't read nature's mind. The SUSY parameter space is large so it will take some time to search through it (not that all of it needs to be searched through!). Matt Strassler has had some good things to say on this. The most natural models have been ruled out, but there could still be SUSY particles below the TeV scale found. Just because we think a model is natural doesn't mean nature has to agree...
 
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LBloom said:
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SUSY may or may not exist, we can't read nature's mind. The SUSY parameter space is large so it will take some time to search through it (not that all of it needs to be searched through!). Matt Strassler has had some good things to say on this. The most natural models have been ruled out, but there could still be SUSY particles below the TeV scale found. Just because we think a model is natural doesn't mean nature has to agree...
What you say makes a lot of sense to me. I've found Strassler's blog ("Of Particular Significance") helpful a number of times on various topics. If you have some definite posts of his in mind and provide links I for one would check them out.

Peter Woit gave some interesting background by quoting various prominent particle theorists' earlier statements on SUSY and their reactions to LHC news last year.
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3864 (July)
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=3937 (August)
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4065 (October)
 
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Thank you both for your responses. I appreciate it.
 

1. What is SUSY theory?

SUSY theory, short for supersymmetry theory, is a theoretical framework in physics that proposes a symmetry between elementary particles and their corresponding fundamental forces. It suggests that every known particle has a "superpartner" particle with a different spin.

2. Why is SUSY theory necessary?

SUSY theory is necessary because it offers a solution to several problems in physics, such as the hierarchy problem and the unification of forces. It also provides a possible explanation for dark matter, a mysterious substance that makes up a significant portion of the universe's mass.

3. What evidence supports SUSY theory?

So far, there is no direct experimental evidence for SUSY theory. However, it can help reconcile inconsistencies in current theories, and its mathematical elegance makes it an attractive candidate for a more comprehensive theory of the universe.

4. Is SUSY theory still relevant?

SUSY theory is still relevant, but its popularity has decreased in recent years due to the lack of experimental evidence and the discovery of the Higgs boson, which can partially explain the hierarchy problem. However, it remains an active area of research, and scientists are still exploring its potential implications.

5. Can we prove or disprove SUSY theory?

As with any scientific theory, it is not possible to prove or disprove SUSY theory definitively. However, further experimentation and observation of the universe can provide more evidence for or against it. If supersymmetric particles are found, it would provide strong support for the theory, while the absence of such particles would call for alternative explanations.

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