Is the interval the height of the triangle?

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The discussion centers on the geometrical interpretation of the spacetime interval, emphasizing that it represents the shortest path between two events, akin to the height of a triangle in spacetime diagrams. Participants explore different diagrammatic representations, including Minkowski and Epstein diagrams, to illustrate concepts like simultaneity and time dilation in special relativity. They debate the correct placement of photon world lines and the implications of coordinate transformations on perceived lengths and times. The conversation highlights the complexity of visualizing these concepts and the importance of accurately representing relationships between events in different frames of reference. Overall, the thread serves as a collaborative exploration of how to effectively illustrate and understand spacetime relationships.
  • #31
bobc2 said:
I probably don't have anything else to contribute that would not get us into a monitor's lock down.

Well, yes, I see that we are lately running into circles in our respective comments. I understand you drop from the thread for that reason. I may post some developments in case someone else wants to comment, but in any case I thank you again for your very helpful intervention. You have told me about Loedel diagrams, which is a very interesting tool. It is curious that by adapting an Epstein diagram I had hit on the idea of this sort of diagrams, just with a different inclination, but I was not placing photon lines where they should and might have never realized this without your indication. We have agreed that at least in timelike events the interval is the height of a right triangle, so math and geometry are consistent. We have some discrepancies as to other types of events, but the discussion was fun. Thanks bobc2.
 
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  • #32
Saw said:
Well, yes, I see that we are lately running into circles in our respective comments. I understand you drop from the thread for that reason. I may post some developments in case someone else wants to comment, but in any case I thank you again for your very helpful intervention. You have told me about Loedel diagrams, which is a very interesting tool. It is curious that by adapting an Epstein diagram I had hit on the idea of this sort of diagrams, just with a different inclination, but I was not placing photon lines where they should and might have never realized this without your indication. We have agreed that at least in timelike events the interval is the height of a right triangle, so math and geometry are consistent. We have some discrepancies as to other types of events, but the discussion was fun. Thanks bobc2.

And thanks to you, Saw. You brought some goot stuff in here. My feelings about the Minkowski metric not really being a metric (true metrics are positive definite) and therefore not applicable to yielding lengths of sides of triangles in general gets out of bounds for this forum.
 
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