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The UN General Assembly passed a resolution urging Israel to dismantle the barrier separating it from the West Bank, which has been labeled the "Apartheid Wall" by critics, with a vote of 150 in favor, 6 against, and 10 abstentions. Israel, however, remains resolute in continuing its construction, citing security concerns and a reduction in terrorist attacks since the wall's erection. The debate centers on the wall's location, with arguments that it encroaches on Palestinian territory and disrupts daily life for Palestinians, while supporters claim it is a necessary measure for Israeli safety. The discussion also touches on broader themes of oppression, historical parallels to apartheid and Nazi Germany, and the portrayal of Palestinians in Israeli education, which some argue fosters animosity and misunderstanding. The conversation reflects deep divisions over the conflict, with participants expressing strong opinions on both sides regarding the legitimacy of actions taken by Israel and the Palestinians.
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It's not an appeal to emotion if I am providing a factual basis for comparison. Ie. if I show Activity X in Case A, and Activity X in Case B.
 
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  • #122
Pray tell, what is the point of making the comparison?
 
  • #123
To clearly illustrate what is happening, and eradicate any odd illusions people may have about what is happening.
 
  • #124
And that explains why you talk about what's happening, but not why you compare Israel to Nazis.
 
  • #125
Hurkyl said:
This statement still baffles me, but I think a clarification might help. Godwin is a name, not two words.

Godwin's law is that comparing someone to Hitler/Nazis/whatever is effectively an admission of defeat. The principle is that the only point of such a comparison is to attempt to project negative emotional responses to Nazis onto the subject of debate, and resorting to such tactics is a demonstration that he who invoked Hitler has reached the end of his ability to argue his point on merit alone.
Hurkyl, this is the definition I used. http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html Maybe I'm being thin skinned, but whenever the word conservative enters a discussion, references to fascists and nazis seem to soon follow.
 
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Hurkyl said:
And that explains why you talk about what's happening, but not why you compare Israel to Nazis.

For the purposes of illumination by analogy, who else should I use? Robert Mugabe's government in Zimbabwe? Australia back in the days of the White Australia policy? South Africa a couple of decades ago? They're all similar, just different stages of the same ridiculous ideas.
 
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So when are you planning on making this analogy?
 

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