Is the Rate of Decay of I_λ as λ→0 equal to o(λ^2)?

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The problem involves analyzing the integral \( I_\lambda = \int g(x) \sin(\lambda x^2) \, dx \) where \( g \) is an infinitely differentiable function that is zero outside the interval \([-1, 1]\). The goal is to prove that \( I_\lambda \) approaches zero as \( \lambda \) approaches zero and to identify the rate of decay of this integral.

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  • Participants discuss the boundedness of \( g \) and its implications for the integral. There are considerations of using differentiation under the integral sign and series expansions, though uncertainty remains about the specifics of these approaches. Questions arise about the nature of decay and how to express it mathematically.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring various mathematical properties of the functions involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the boundedness of \( g \) and its relevance to the limit of the integral. There is an ongoing exploration of how to characterize the decay rate of \( I_\lambda \) as \( \lambda \) approaches zero, with multiple interpretations being considered.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for \( g \) to be infinitely differentiable and the specific behavior of the sine function as \( \lambda \) approaches zero. There is also mention of the lack of explicit definitions or clarifications regarding the decay rate and its mathematical representation.

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Let g: R→R be an infinitely differentiable function satisfying g(x)=0[itex]\forall[/itex] |x|>1

Consider the integral I[itex]\lambda[/itex] = ∫g(x)sin([itex]\lambda[/itex]x2) dx taken from -∞ to +∞

Prove that I[itex]\lambda[/itex]→0 and identify the rate of decay as [itex]\lambda[/itex]→0


I have no idea how to start this. I thought maybe differentiation under the integral or using Bessel's inequality?
 
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I can get you started. First, since g(x) = 0 for |x|>1, you are integrating only from -1 to 1. We also see that as ##\lambda \rightarrow 0## sin##(\lambda x^2) \rightarrow 0##. If g(x) is infinitely differentiable, can you show it is bounded on [-1,1]? And then what happens to that integral as ##\lambda \rightarrow 0##?
 
Alright, I think I see where you're going. I can show it's bounded by setting m=min g on [-1, 1] and M=max g on [-1, 1] so that m*I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<M*I[itex]\lambda[/itex].

It seems like I'd do a series expansion about [itex]\lambda[/itex]=∞, but I have no idea what the expansion would look due to the nature of g
 
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Alright, I think I see where you're going. I can show it's bounded by setting m=min g on [-1, 1] and M=max g on [-1, 1] so that m*I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<M*I[itex]\lambda[/itex].

It seems like I'd do a series expansion about [itex]\lambda[/itex]=∞, but I have no idea what the expansion would look due to the nature of g

Your bounds are correct, but not quite to the point here. The boundedness of g tells us that as sin(##\lambda x^2##) sinks down to 0, the g won't pull it back up and ruin our limit.

Also, you can't just say g is bounded, you have to give a reason. What is it?

In terms of the decay, I wasn't sure what derivative we need to look at (not much of a physicist). I suppose it is d##\lambda##/d? but I don't know what the ? would be. Do you know?
 
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That makes sense. g is bounded because any infinitely differentiable function over an interval is analytic and then the following holds:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_function#Alternative_characterizations (at least I think that's the reason).

As far as the decay goes, I don't know what the ? would. This is for a PDE course and that's all I was given as a question

Your reason for g being bounded is correct, but it's overkill plus there is a mistake. It is enough to say g is differentiable on the interval, thus continuous, and any continuous function on a closed interval is bounded.

If g is in ##C^ \infty## that does not mean it is analytic. The standard example is g(x) = 0 for x ≤0; g(x) =## e^{-x^2}## for x > 0. You can see that g is infinitely differentiable at x = 0. All the derivatives are 0 at x = 0. Thus its Taylor's series is identically zero, which converges fine to g for x ##\le## 0 but is nowhere near the mark for x > 0.

For a function to be analytic at a point, its Taylor's series must converge to it within some interval around that point. For real analytic functions that is the definition.

Re the decay, I would think that is with respect to time, but I don't see a t in the problem. ? Could you get this clarified?
 
Hey, sorry for the late response but thanks for elucidating about analytic functions. As far as the decay is concerned, I can't get it clarified till tomorrow, but I really appreciated your help!
 
Alright, so I think I got it. I can bound the integral with the following:

m*I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<M*I[itex]\lambda[/itex].


Now, the period of sin (λx2) is 2pi/λx, which goes to zero as λ→∞. So I think the decay rate would be 1/λx?
 
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Azupol123 said:
Alright, so I think I got it. I can bound the integral with the following:

m*I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<I[itex]\lambda[/itex]<M*I[itex]\lambda[/itex].


Now, the period of sin (λx2) is 2pi/λx, which goes to zero as λ→∞. So I think the decay rate would be 1/λx?

The period of sin(## \lambda x^2##) is ##\sqrt \pi / \lambda##.

Continuing with the problem: We have shown that ##I_λ \rightarrow 0## as ##λ \rightarrow 0##. From this point I am guessing, so don't quote me; but you can ask if this is the right kind of thing:

By decay I think he means how fast does ##I_λ \rightarrow 0##? So we are looking at dI/dλ. That can be integrated under the integral sign to get

##\int_{-1}^1 g(x)x^2 cos(λx^2)dx##. Since cos(x) ≈ 1 - ##x^2##/2 the integral is approximately

##\int_{-1}^1 g(x)x^2 [1 -(λx^2)^2/2]dx## = ## \int_{-1}^1 g(x)x^2 dx - \frac{1}{2}λ^2\int_{-1}^1 g(x)x^6 dx ##. Both the integrals are constants with respect to λ so we can write this last expression as A -Bλ##^2##. This would be the kind of answer that is needed: we would say the decay is o(λ##^2##), where the "o" stands for order.

Order is a measure of the general size of something. In the case of convergence we consider it to be a power of whatever variable is going to 0. The particular factors the variable may be multiplied by are irrelevant because they are constants. In this case the variable is λ; if you are defining a derivative it is usually h. When we are consider comparative bigness, we usually think of it as a power of 10 as in "your financial calculation is off by an order of magnitude".
 

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