Is the Sequence x_{n+1}=\sqrt{2x_n} Converging?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the sequence defined by the recurrence relation \( x_{n+1} = \sqrt{2x_n} \). Participants explore the behavior of the sequence and its limit, with a focus on its properties and the implications of its formulation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss whether the sequence is increasing or decreasing and its implications for convergence. There are attempts to express the sequence in terms of exponentials and sums, as well as considerations of geometric series. Questions arise about how to demonstrate convergence and the appropriate form to use for analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations of the sequence's behavior being explored. Some participants suggest that the sequence converges to 2, while others question the assumptions made about its monotonicity. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of limits and recursive definitions, but no consensus has been reached on the final outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of defining convergence rigorously, including the use of epsilon-delta definitions and the implications of boundedness and monotonicity. There are references to other sequences and series that may diverge, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Show that [itex]\sqrt{2},\sqrt{2\sqrt{2}},\sqrt{2\sqrt{2\sqrt{2}}}[/itex]
converges and find the limit.

The Attempt at a Solution


I can write it also like this correct
[itex]2^{\frac{1}{2}},2^{\frac{1}{2}}2^{\frac{1}{4}},2^{\frac{1}{2}}2^{\frac{1}{4}}2^{\frac{1}{8}}[/itex]
so each time i multiply it by the new number it is getting closer to 1.
Every new number on the end of the sequence is getting closer to 1 that I am multiplying it by. so this sequence is bounded and decreasing therefore it must have a limit.
I am not sure what it converges to. but when I know I need to show that it that the sequence
A-b<ε , where A is the sequence and b is the limit.
 
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No, it's not decreasing. Think about it again.
 
I think it does converge. What happens when you multiply exponentials with a common base?

Edit: this sequence doesn't converge to 1, but...?
 
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okay its increasing but it will eventually converge because we keep multiplying it by something smaller. okay I see it now we have 2 raised to the sum of
[itex]\sum \frac{1}{2^n}[/itex]
so it should converge to 2 .
all the exponents should add up to 1.
by a geometric series.
 
You got it! One nitpick though:

cragar said:
okay its increasing but it will eventually converge because we keep multiplying it by something smaller.

Consider the sequence $$2^{-1}+2, (2^{-2}+2)(2^{-1}+2), (2^{-3}+2)(2^{-2}+2)(2^{-1}+2), \ldots$$
 
cragar said:
okay its increasing but it will eventually converge because we keep multiplying it by something smaller. okay I see it now we have 2 raised to the sum of
[itex]\sum \frac{1}{2^n}[/itex]
so it should converge to 2 .
all the exponents should add up to 1.
by a geometric series.

That's one way to do it. Another way is the call the limit [itex]L[/itex] and figure out what [itex]\sqrt{ 2 L }[/itex] must be if it converges.
 
So now I need to show that the sequence [itex]A-2< \epsilon[/itex]
where A is the sequence. Do I need to write the sequence as 2 raised to a sum with a variable n and then use that to show that it converges. Your saying call the limit L and then put it in and then manipulate it to show that it converges, I am mot exactly sure how that would work.
@alanlu: Are you using that other sequence as an example and I should figure out what it converges to.
thanks for all the help by the way.
 
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The other sequence is an example of a series where the terms get multiplied by decreasing positive numbers, but the series diverges.

Further hint for the other route: can you write ##\sqrt{2L}## in terms of L?

Lastly, the definition of the limit of a sequence is a bit unwieldy for this situation: at best, you should use it to check your work. Also, it is stated, sn -> L iff for all e > 0, there is an N such that for all n >= N, ¦L - sn¦ < e.
 
Okay now I see what you mean by write in terms of L, write it recursively.
[itex]x_{n+1}=\sqrt{2x_n}[/itex]
 
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