Is the Three-Dimensional Universe Explained by Knot Theory?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between knot theory and the dimensionality of the universe, particularly in the context of a recent paper proposing a model that suggests a network of knotted flux tubes could explain why the universe has three spatial dimensions. Participants explore the implications of this theory, its historical context, and its reception within the scientific community.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about the seriousness with which knot theory is regarded in the scientific community, citing a recent paper that proposes a novel explanation for the universe's three-dimensionality.
  • Others provide historical context, noting that knot theory was initially proposed by Lord Kelvin as a model for atomic structure, which was later abandoned in favor of more conventional atomic models.
  • A participant highlights that the recent paper argues against the existence of more than three spatial dimensions, suggesting that the knotted flux tubes are stable only in three dimensions and could drive cosmological inflation.
  • There is a mention of the quark-gluon plasma in the early universe, where flux tubes connecting quark-antiquark pairs could become knotted, potentially influencing the universe's dimensionality.
  • Some participants question the mainstream acceptance of the knot theory approach, comparing it to other speculative theories in physics, such as Wheeler's geons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the acceptance of knot theory within the scientific community. There are competing views regarding the implications of the recent paper, with some asserting it supports knot theory while others clarify that it argues against higher spatial dimensions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in understanding the implications of the proposed model, particularly regarding the definitions of dimensions and the stability of the knot structures. Some assumptions about the nature of the vacuum and its relationship to knot theory remain unresolved.

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Is knot theory taken seriously by the sconce community , This seems to be a novel theory which explains why our world is three dimensional.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171016190308.htm

An international team of physicists has developed an out-of-the-box theory which proposes that shortly after it popped into existence 13.8 billion years ago the universe was filled with knots formed from flexible strands of energy called flux tubes that link elementary particles together. The idea provides a neat explanation for why we inhabit a three-dimensional world and is described in a paper titled "Knotty inflation and the dimensionality of space time" accepted for publication in the European Physical Journal C.
 
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Here is the journal link:

Arjun Berera, Roman V. Buniy, Thomas W. Kephart, Heinrich Päs, João G. Rosa. Knotty inflation and the dimensionality of spacetime. The European Physical Journal C, 2017; 77 (10) DOI: 10.1140/epjc/s10052-017-5253-3
 
Knot theory was first proposed as a theory of atoms by Lord Kelvin with each type of knot being matched to an element. It was a more modern take on the platonic solids and how they predicted the orbits of the planets until they didn't.

In any event, mathematicians continued to develop the theory on a purely mathematical sense creating a taxonomy of knots and some theorems on knot equivalence and some computable knot invariants to decide if two knots were equivalent.

The knot element theory was abandoned when Thompson's experiment established the atomic structure definitively and folks moved onto electrons, protons and neutrons as the basis for an atom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_theory

In the 1860s, Lord Kelvin's theory that atoms were knots in the aetherled to Peter Guthrie Tait's creation of the first knot tables for complete classification. Tait, in 1885, published a table of knots with up to ten crossings, and what came to be known as the Tait conjectures. This record motivated the early knot theorists, but knot theory eventually became part of the emerging subject of topology.

The interesting thing about knots is that they can't be unravelled in 3-space but can in a higher dimensional space and so that seems to be where this paper is headed. I don't think its mainstream though more of a concept to explore further. In some ways it reminds me of Wheeler's geons and the attempt to describe elementary particles as some sort of ring of light which too faded away when it was determined that light probably couldn't gravitationally sustain itself in a loop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geon_(physics)
 
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Thanks for the link Jim, I will read it ASAP.
 
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Actually, the paper is not about knot theory and argues against there being more than 3 spatial dimensions.

Abstract:
We suggest a structure for the vacuum comprised of a network of tightly knotted/linked flux tubes formed in a QCD-like cosmological phase transition and show that such a network can drive cosmological inflation. As the network can be topologically stable only in three space dimensions, this scenario provides a dynamical explanation for the existence of exactly three large spatial dimensions in our Universe.

The basic idea is that in the quark-gluon plasma of the very early universe, the flux tubes connecting quark-antiquark pairs in mesons could become knotted or tangled. These knotted flux tubes could have survived after the quarks that they connected were annihilate and would have been responsible for driving inflation. The fact that they didn't untangle means no more than 3 dimensions.
 
websterling said:
Actually, the paper is not about knot theory and argues against there being more than 3 spatial dimensions.

Abstract:
We suggest a structure for the vacuum comprised of a network of tightly knotted/linked flux tubes formed in a QCD-like cosmological phase transition and show that such a network can drive cosmological inflation. As the network can be topologically stable only in three space dimensions, this scenario provides a dynamical explanation for the existence of exactly three large spatial dimensions in our Universe.

The basic idea is that in the quark-gluon plasma of the very early universe, the flux tubes connecting quark-antiquark pairs in mesons could become knotted or tangled. These knotted flux tubes could have survived after the quarks that they connected were annihilate and would have been responsible for driving inflation. The fact that they didn't untangle means no more than 3 dimensions.
To be precise, it argues against there being more than three large spatial dimensions. Small extra spatial dimensions, such as the ones most commonly proposed in string theory, don't disrupt the model.
 

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