Is There a Constant Lower Bound for the Integral Test of Convergence?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the integral $$ \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}} \ dx $$, with participants exploring the behavior of the integrand as x approaches infinity. The subject area is primarily calculus, focusing on improper integrals and convergence tests.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the functions $$ \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}} $$ and $$ \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}} $$, questioning whether the latter can serve as a valid comparison for convergence. There are suggestions to find a function that is always above the original integrand. Some participants propose using a change of variable or finding a constant lower bound for $$ \sqrt{1-x^{-3}} $$ for large x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being considered. Some participants have expressed uncertainty about the necessity of finding a constant lower bound, while others have provided algebraic manipulations to demonstrate relationships between the functions. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to show that one function is always above another for convergence purposes. There are references to specific values of x, such as x=2, and the implications of these values on the analysis.

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The problem
I am trying to show that the following integral is convergent
$$ \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}} \ dx $$The attempt
## x^3 - 1 \approx x^3 ## for ##x \rightarrow \infty##.

Since ## x^3 -1 < x^3 ## there is this relation:
##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}} > \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}}## (the denominator is smaller for function with ## x^3-1 ## and hence bigger quotient).

I know since earlier that the integral ## \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}} \ dx ## is convergent. But the problem is that function ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}}## is smaller than the other one and therefore always "below" that other function. The other functions integral can diverge and ## \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}} \ dx ## will still be convergent like nothin' happened.

Please help me to solve this mystery.
 
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Why don't you find an integral that is always "above" that other function?
 
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fresh_42 said:
Why don't you find an integral that is always "above" that other function?
Will ##\int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}} + 1## do the job? Smells fishy though.
 
Rectifier said:
The problem
I am trying to show that the following integral is convergent
$$ \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}} \ dx $$The attempt
## x^3 - 1 \approx x^3 ## for ##x \rightarrow \infty##.

Since ## x^3 -1 < x^3 ## there is this relation:
##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}} > \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}}## (the denominator is smaller for function with ## x^3-1 ## and hence bigger quotient).

I know since earlier that the integral ## \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}} \ dx ## is convergent. But the problem is that function ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}}## is smaller than the other one and therefore always "below" that other function. The other functions integral can diverge and ## \int^{\infty}_{2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3}} \ dx ## will still be convergent like nothin' happened.

Please help me to solve this mystery.

For ##x > 1## we have ##\sqrt{x^3-1} = x^{3/2} \sqrt{1-x^{-3}}##. Try to find a nice constant lower bound on ##\sqrt{1-x^{-3}}## that is good for ##x \geq 2## (or, at least, for large positive ##x##).
 
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I don't know. I hope the ##1## isn't meant to be part of the integrand. How about ##x^{-\frac{5}{4}}##?
 
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Use a change of variable x = a+1 and (after a little manipulation) compare the integral to the integral of 1/(a3/2)
 
FactChecker said:
Use a change of variable x = a+1 and (after a little manipulation)
On which integral?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Try to find a nice constant lower bound on ##\sqrt{1-x^{-3}}## that is good for ##x \geq 2## (or, at least, for large positive ##x##).

Why do I need to find a constant lower bound? Isn't the bound x=2 already?
 
fresh_42 said:
I don't know. I hope the ##1## isn't meant to be part of the integrand. How about ##x^{-\frac{5}{4}}##?

That one is convergent too but I have to show that it is always above the original function.

In other words:

I must show that
## \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}}< \frac{1}{x^{\frac{5}{4}}} ## for all x:es

Any suggestions on how I can do that?
 
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Rectifier said:
That one is convergent too but I have to show that it is always above the original function.

In other words:

I must show that
## \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}}< \frac{1}{x^{\frac{5}{4}}} ## for all x:es

Any suggestions on how I can do that?
Do some algebra. Remove the quotients, the square roots and so on.
 
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I solved it another way by showing that the quotient of the first function and the second is not infinite for ## x \rightarrow \infty ##. If you have any alternative solution strategies please share them here.
 
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I did (##x>0## ) : ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3-1}}<\frac{1}{x^\frac{5}{4}} \Longleftrightarrow x^\frac{5}{4}<\sqrt{x^3-1} \Longleftrightarrow x^\frac{5}{2}<x^\frac{6}{2}-1 \Longleftrightarrow x^6 > x^5 + 2x^3 - 1## which is true for ##x\geq 2## .
 
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Rectifier said:
Why do I need to find a constant lower bound? Isn't the bound x=2 already?

There are other ways of doing your problem, but finding a positive constant ##c## such that ##\sqrt{1-x^{-3}} > c## for large ##x>0## is certainly one way to do it. Your previously-expressed worries about ##1/\sqrt{x^3}## not being an upper bound on ##1/\sqrt{x^3-1}## would then go away.
 
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