Is there a Constant-Watt Test Load for Human-Power Generators?

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The discussion revolves around the search for a constant-watt test load for human-power generators, specifically those designed to operate like a bicycle with an alternator. Participants explore options for devices that can draw a set amount of power regardless of varying voltage levels due to changes in alternator RPM.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about commercially available constant-watt test loads or schematics to create one for testing a human-power generator.
  • Another participant suggests using DC loads from specific manufacturers as potential solutions.
  • A different participant proposes a switching power supply as a viable option, emphasizing the importance of high conversion efficiency and stability under varying loads.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost of certain equipment, with one participant expressing that $500 for a specific model is too expensive.
  • There is a discussion about the suitability of switching power supplies for the intended application, including questions about the risks of connecting them directly to an alternator.
  • One participant specifies a desired output power range of 15-50W and discusses the availability of DC/DC converters that could serve as test loads, noting limitations in output voltage options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best approach to create a constant-watt test load, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Multiple competing views on equipment options and configurations remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific voltage and power requirements, as well as the need to check datasheets for compatibility with input voltages. Limitations in available products and specifications are noted, particularly regarding output voltage capabilities.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in designing or testing human-power generators, as well as those exploring power management solutions in experimental or applied contexts.

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Is there such a thing that can be bought? Are there schematics/BOMs to make one?

Reason I ask is that I'm designing a human-power generator (think bicycle with an alternator) and I need a way to test it. What I'd like is a "watt sink" -- a device that draws a set amount of power, independent of the voltage (which will vary with alternator RPM).
 
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almson said:
Is there such a thing that can be bought? Are there schematics/BOMs to make one?

Reason I ask is that I'm designing a human-power generator (think bicycle with an alternator) and I need a way to test it. What I'd like is a "watt sink" -- a device that draws a set amount of power, independent of the voltage (which will vary with alternator RPM).

Welcome to the PF. A switching power supply would be a good initial choice. If it has reasonably high conversion efficiency > 90% or so and the efficiency doesn't vary much with the load current, you can hook whatever power resistor is appropriate for your power load to it, and it will sink a fairly constant power.
 
Ack, beat me to the punch again, waht!
 
Ahh, $500 for the BK Precision 8540 is too much.

But a switching power supply is a really good idea. Let me look around for a good one, especially one that will put out something cool like the 19.5V that a Dell laptop takes. Btw, do you think there's any danger of feeding it too little voltage or otherwise hooking it up directly to an alternator?
 
almson said:
Ahh, $500 for the BK Precision 8540 is too much.

But a switching power supply is a really good idea. Let me look around for a good one, especially one that will put out something cool like the 19.5V that a Dell laptop takes. Btw, do you think there's any danger of feeding it too little voltage or otherwise hooking it up directly to a [rectified] alternator?

Many switching power supplies are rated for AC or DC input voltages (for obvious reasons). Check the datasheets for the minimum input voltages.

What output power levels are you looking for?
 
I am looking for something in the 15-50W range.

Checking on mouser, the "switching power supplies" section is slim pickings, but "DC/DC converters" has a lot of things. In particular, a dozen can take 3-13.5V (the prefect range for my alternator) with some handling 100W. Unfortunately, almost no Mouser DC/DC converter outputs 19.5V, and this particular dozen doesn't can't even put out 12V for a car inverter. But, they look like they'd work great as test loads.

http://www.mouser.com/Power/DC-DC-Converters-Regulators/_/N-5gc7?P=1yzxl5hZ1yzxl40Z1yzxl5m
 
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