Is there an explanation for the unexpected increase in activity of Nuclide A?

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The discussion revolves around the unexpected increase in the activity of Nuclide A, which is initially described as decaying to Nuclide B. The problem involves calculations related to decay constants and activities, with specific values provided for the half-lives and initial quantities of the nuclides.

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  • Participants explore the calculations of decay constants and initial activities, questioning the validity of the provided values and their implications. There is a focus on understanding why the activity of Nuclide A would increase rather than decrease over time.

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Some participants suggest that there may be errors in the problem setup, such as the possibility of incorrect half-lives or initial quantities. Others mention concepts like "Transient Equilibrium" to explain the observed behavior, indicating a productive exploration of the topic without reaching a consensus on the original question's validity.

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There are indications that the initial number of nuclei may be too small for the context, and the discussion touches on the relationship between the half-lives of the parent and daughter nuclides, which is central to understanding the activity changes.

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Homework Statement
Nuclide A decays to nuclide B. Initially, there are ##1.29 \times10^9## nuclei of A and after some time the activity of A is 10 000 Bq. If the half life of A and B is 10 years and 10 hours respectively, find activity of B
Relevant Equations
##A=\lambda N##

##t_{\frac 1 2}=\frac{ln~2}{\lambda}##
I found something I think does not make sense.

Decay constant of A:
$$\lambda_{A}=\frac{ln~2}{t_{\frac 1 2}}$$
$$=\frac{ln~2}{10\times 365 \times 24 \times 3600}$$
$$=2.2\times 10^{-9} / s$$

Initial activity of A = ##\lambda_{A} N_{\text{initial}}## = 2.2 x 10-9 x 1.29 x 109 = 2.84 Bq

Then after some time the activity becomes 10 000 Bq. How can the activity increase instead of decrease?

Is there something wrong with the question or something wrong with me?

Thanks
 
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songoku said:
Is there something wrong with the question or something wrong with me?
There's nothing wrong with you! The question appears to have one or more mistakes.

Some possibilities are:
- the half-lives of A and B are the wrong way round;
- ##1.29 \times10^9## is a very small number for a number of nuclei in this context; maybe it should be ##1.29 \times10^{19}## for example.
 
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You could at least obtain the general form of the solution.
 
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Thank you very much Steve4Physics and haruspex
 
songoku said:
Homework Statement:: Nuclide A decays to nuclide B. Initially, there are ##1.29 \times10^9## nuclei of A and after some time the activity of A is 10 000 Bq. If the half life of A and B is 10 years and 10 hours respectively, find activity of B
Relevant Equations:: ##A=\lambda N##

##t_{\frac 1 2}=\frac{ln~2}{\lambda}##

Then after some time the activity becomes 10 000 Bq. How can the activity increase instead of decrease?
One should research "Transient Equilibrium", where t1/2(parent) > t1/2(daughter), or λ(parent) < λ(daughter). This is observed for the natural decay series of radionuclides 232Th, 235U, 238U and others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_equilibrium
Also see related Secular equilibrium.
 
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Astronuc said:
One should research "Transient Equilibrium", where t1/2(parent) > t1/2(daughter), or λ(parent) < λ(daughter). This is observed for the natural decay series of radionuclides 232Th, 235U, 238U and others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_equilibrium
Also see related Secular equilibrium.
At this stage it is not clear from @songoku's posts whether he has any difficulty in solving a correctly posed version of the question. The thread centres on the impossible combination of given facts.
 
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