Is There Really a Santa Claus? A Response to Virginia's Letter in 1897

[Richard87]

How did you feel when you found out that there was no Santa Claus (if you ever believed)?

 

[Evo]

How did you feel when you found out that there was no Santa Claus (if you ever believed)?

I had it figured out and then was really happy when my parents let me play Santa for my younger siblings.

 

[lisab]

I never believed in Santa. In fact, I can't even imagine my dad telling me (or any kid, actually) such a thing.

 

[waht]

How did you feel when you found out that there was no Santa Claus (if you ever believed)?

I felt like a little scientist who has discovered a new fact about the world.

 

[Math Is Hard]

How did you feel when you found out that there was no Santa Claus (if you ever believed)?

What are you talking about?

 

[humanino]

What do you mean "there is no Santa" ?

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Hi MIH

 

[Moonbear]

I figured it out before my parents told me, so it wasn't any big deal. Actually, what was more of a big deal was trying to pretend I still believed in Santa when my parents talked about it because I was afraid they might stop giving me gifts from Santa! Once I found out I had at least 2 more years of Santa gifts to keep up the illusion for my younger sister, all was fine again.

 

[Evo]

I never believed in Santa. In fact, I can't even imagine my dad telling me (or any kid, actually) such a thing.

Ahhh, that's sad. Part of the fun of christmas is showing your parents it's not real. There is a lot of satisfaction in blowing their cover, then you get to do it to your younger sibilings. Just a fun thing.

 

[lisab]

Ahhh, that's sad. Part of the fun of christmas is showing your parents it's not real. There is a lot of satisfaction in blowing their cover, then you get to do it to your younger sibilings. Just a fun thing.

Ah, my dad was way too analytical and practical for make-believe. He did, however, spend hours explaining engineering things to me...for example, how a vacuum works .

 

[Math Is Hard]

You're all crazy. Except for Humanino.

 

[noblegas]

At seven years old , my parents made the big mistake of shopping for the gifts that I wanted while bringing along my brother and me to the department store and telling me that these gifts were not for not me nor my brother , but for the salvation army, even though those were the exact gifts tha we requested. Thats when I found out that the story of santa claus had been a sham

 

[ViewsofMars]

How did you feel when you found out that there was no Santa Claus (if you ever believed)?

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[berkeman]

LOL, only on the PF.

At about 8-ish, I was pretty sure there was no real Santa, just a tradition, but my parents still pushed it. This despite my dad at the time spending hours and hours sketching mechanical and other concepts for me on dinner napkins after our nightly family dinners, teaching me how things in the real world worked.

So naturally the next Christmas I was skeptical, so I laid a couple of prove-it traps for Santa. On Christmas eve, I sneakily smoothed out the ashes in the hearth when nobody was in the living room (we hadn't made a fire that night), and moved a mat slightly against the front door (in case Santa came in that way). I would know for sure if Santa had brought the gifts the next day!

Dang, I got up, and the mat had been straightened out (not moved by the door), and the ashes in the fireplace had been cleaned out (sneaky parents!), so no conclusive evidence. But a couple days later in the YMCA locker room after a Judo lesson, the older boys were laughing about Christmas and how parents were fooling their kids, and I was not a happy camper.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I believe for Lauren Graham and keep a costume in my closet special.

 

[Andre]

I think I was around 6 and I was devastated. I think I became skeptical from that.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

I have never stopped believing in Santa Claus.

 

[cristo]

I can't remember when I figured it out, though my parents did go quite far to try and pretend. My mum would send us presents from Santa which would have labels she'd written with her left hand, and which were wrapped in completely different wrapping paper to any of our other presents. They also used to eat the minced pie, and take a bite out of the carrot we left for the reindeer.

 

[Borek]

I must be too old, I don't remember believing.

 

[S_Happens]

I'm not 100%, but it was somewhere from 6-8. I didn't "feel" anything, as it made a lot more since for there not to be a Santa. I do remember keeping up the sham for my little sister though.

 

[turbo]

It was around 5 years of age, for me. I overheard my mother and my aunt talking about a particular family that we knew (much poorer than we were) that hoped to be able to afford shoes for at least a couple of the kids. We didn't get much for Christmas, kids from well-to-do families often got a lot of really nice stuff, and poorer kids got less than we did. Being "good" for Santa obviously had nothing to do with that.

 

[Pattonias]

I remember asking my grandmother (Nana) whether Santa was real or not. I already was pretty sure that he wasn't but I wanted her to confirm it for me. Secretly I wanted her to tell me that he was real, but she wouldn't do that to me because I asked her. (I love my Nana.) I think that I understood why they did it, because it is fun for little kids; but I think that it kind of hurts to realize that your parents were lying in a way. I wanted her to confirm that he was real not so much to do with presents, but because I didn't think that they would make something up.

lol, on the lighter side I think mall Santa's are what gave the whole thing away for me.

 

[Gear300]

Santa Claus actually did exist up until 1967 when the Big Mac was released.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Santa Claus actually did exist up until 1967 when the Big Mac was released.

I'm not following. Are you saying Big Macs are actually Claus Burgers?

 

[Gear300]

I'm not following. Are you saying Big Macs are actually Claus Burgers?

No. I'm saying he had a stroke and died from it.

 

[zoobyshoe]

No. I'm saying he had a stroke and died from it.

That's crazy. Big Macs aren't real.

 

[Gear300]

That's crazy. Big Macs aren't real.

Ha!...that's like saying Santa Claus isn't real.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Ha!...that's like saying Santa Claus isn't real.

Well, it's more like saying "I never had sex with that woman. Miss Lewinski."

 

[Pattonias]

Well, it's more like saying "I never had sex with that woman. Miss Lewinski."

"Oh, I'm sorry. Could you define sex for me?..."
"...****..."
" Well, then yes I totally did."

 

[Gear300]

Well, it's more like saying "I never had sex with that woman. Miss Lewinski."

"Oh, I'm sorry. Could you define sex for me?..."
"...****..."
" Well, then yes I totally did."

Yeah...I suppose...truth tends to be relative...but going back to the main point of this thread: Big Macs are real, which proves that Santa Claus is real.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Yeah...I suppose...truth tends to be relative...but going back to the main point of this thread: Big Macs are real, which proves that Santa Claus is real.

But sex is not real. Not for Santa. There's no Santa Jr.

 

[Gear300]

But sex is not real. Not for Santa. There's no Santa Jr.

I don't get it...we're talking about Big Macs and Santa...what does sex have to do with Santa?

 

[zoobyshoe]

I don't get it...we're talking about Big Macs and Santa...what does sex have to do with Santa?

Nothing. I'm thinking Mrs Santa must consequently be very horny, and I'm wondering if she looks at least as good as Monica Lewinski.

 

[Gear300]

Nothing. I'm thinking Mrs Santa must consequently be very horny, and I'm wondering if she looks at least as good as Monica Lewinski.

I doubt Santa would like where this is going if he was actually reading all this.

 

[lisab]

Y'all are going to end up on the Naughty List this year.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I doubt Santa would like where this is going if he was actually reading all this.

I'm thinkin' of heading up there Xmas eve and not having sex with that woman. Mrs. Claus.

 

[Gear300]

I'm thinkin' of heading up there Xmas eve and not having sex with that woman. Mrs. Claus.

All is alright so long as you do not have sex with that woman. Mrs. Claus.

 

[Pattonias]

If Santa Clause wasn't in his position of power, would Mrs. Claus stick with him despite the affair?
And do they use Raindeer meat for Big Macs in the North Pole?

 

[BobG]

What are you talking about?

About http://www.noradsanta.org/en/whytrack.html as he makes his rounds. In fact, I got to play in this one year, as I was stationed at a BMEWS site in Alaska and was working the mid shift on Christmas Eve.

Instead of asking [/url=http://www.noradsanta.org/en/real.html]if Santa is real[/url], I want to know if Virginia is real.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

In regards to the discovery of the "hobbits", the chance that these little humanoids have played a role in history is tempting to consider. With that in mind, Baywax made a rather interesting post.

... The existence and occurrence of the Indonesian "homosapien minimus" (not a real name) holds a lot of promise in uncovering the origin of many stories that have lasted 1000s of years in various human folklore. The stories are not passed along with a date, no copyright, so when we find possible, probable or definite sources of their content this helps to date the story and perhaps the era of that story.

For instance, there is a version of the Santa Claus tale from northwestern europe about Cinder Claus and his little black elf. Cinder Claus would reward any good children and the little black elf would stuff the bad ones into Cinder Claus' bag and beat them with hammers... er... or like a broom or something (maybe a dash of waterboarding). Then they'd be abducted by the ruthless pair.

Looking at this tale with the knowledge of this Indonesian version of humans and with our knowledge of very early trading practices between Turkey and Scandinavia, (as early if not earlier than 300 AD after Scandinavians navigated the Dneiper River system through Russia to Istanbul) we can see that there may be a connection between the little black hellion and our Indonesian cousins. This is because once the Scandinavians got to Istanbul, they became privy to all of the blunders of the Turkish Empire and its outstandingly accurate navigational charts. On these charts are the Indonesian islands and their booty could have well included curious little "black" people that were perhaps collected and kept to breed during the previous millennia of Turkish history (of 23,000 yrs)...

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2192007&highlight=history+hobbits#post2192007

If Santa Claus existed, he may have beaten children with hammers [at least his elf did]. Now tell that one to the kids!

 

[Norman]

I figured it out before my parents told me, so it wasn't any big deal. Actually, what was more of a big deal was trying to pretend I still believed in Santa when my parents talked about it because I was afraid they might stop giving me gifts from Santa! Once I found out I had at least 2 more years of Santa gifts to keep up the illusion for my younger sister, all was fine again.

Very similar to my experience. Between school friends with older siblings and a very noisy nature I had it figured out early (I don't know exactly when, but I think it was 6 or 7). But due to fear not getting the presents anymore and ruining it for my little brother I kept quiet.

Then, my parents found my little brother telling me Santa was not real a while later and me denying it to him in the hopes that he would retain his innocence or ruin it for us both (which I am not sure of). Then they told us both and refused (to this day nonetheless) to believe I had known for a while. I still get ribbed about it at the age of 30.

 

[Borek]

Parents... They always know better.

 

[turbo]

I had three younger sisters, and I kept up the charade for them. We lived in a small (<600 pop) town that had lots of small rental "houses" that had been built in the 1920s to house workers building Wyman Dam, and those little shacks were home to some of the poorest people in the entire region. Even at age 5, I couldn't believe that Santa would bring me a small tube of Tinkertoys and a box of new Crayolas and a coloring book without giving some of my friends anything. Even worse was the "good little girls and boys" aspect, because some of the bullies and jerks in town were spoiled kids that got showered with gifts at Christmas. Even 5-year-olds understand fairness.

 

[pbandjay]

I don't think I really ever believed in Santa Claus as much as I just liked the idea of Santa Claus. It was pretty obvious to me when the "From Santa" on the presents were written in my mom's handwriting.

 

[hypatia]

I was told that the spirit of Santa lives in all of us. I was never told that Santa was a real person, but that people dress in his cloths to remind us of the season for giving.

Me being me, even at a young age asked where was he buried, I was told, the North Pole. I think I took them by surprise with that one.

 

[Borek]

This Santa Claus discussion is depressing, I just remembered I have no gift for Marzena

 

[turbo]

I was never told that Santa was a real person, but that people dress in his cloths to remind us of the season for giving.

We had a local "Santa" who would talk to the kids, hand out candy, etc, and he always came and left on the back of the town's fire truck. He was usually half-lit during the "parade" and kiddie-time, and I knew that HE was not real even before I knew that Santa was not real, because I recognized his face and gravelly voice. Some of the older kids would wave and holler "Hi, Bun!" as he passed on the fire truck.

 

[Borek]

I knew that Santa was not real, because I recognized his face and gravelly voice. Some of the older kids would wave and holler "Hi, Bun!" as he passed on the fire truck.

Long ago I have heard story about kids and Christmas with punch line being "Mom, why does the Santa Claus is in uncle's John boots?"

uncle's John boots - I just hope it is in English, somehow I am not sure if that's correct form :/

 

[Sorry!]

well I always had my suspicions, ever since I sat on santas lap at an event and pulled the beard off and it was my dad...

Then one christmas my grandmother was wrapping gifts kind-of tipsy and she wrote 'from santa sue' LOL that confirmed all suspicions...

 

[edward]

I had four older siblings who were blabber mouths. I knew the truth by about age 4.

My son caught on one Christmas at age five when he noticed that Santa was wearing his grampa's shoes.

 

[ideasrule]

I don't know when the first time I heard of Santa was. It was certainly after I was 7, but I probably didn't know "Santa" was supposed to be real until after 12.

My dad tried to tell me once that Santa was coming. I don't know whether he expected me to believe it, but I pretended to believe him.