Is this equal to teleporting information?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of quantum teleportation and whether it can be equated to the teleportation of information, particularly in the context of speed and the implications for relativity. Participants explore the mechanics of quantum teleportation, its requirements, and its potential applications, including security in quantum communication.

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  • Some participants assert that quantum teleportation does transmit information, but the speed of transmission is limited to the speed of light, thus adhering to relativity.
  • One participant describes the process of quantum teleportation involving entangled particles and the necessity of classical communication to complete the process, emphasizing that this does not allow for faster-than-light (FTL) information transfer.
  • Another participant questions the nature of what is being teleported, suggesting that the term "teleportation" implies instantaneous transfer, which could be misinterpreted as FTL.
  • Some participants clarify that while quantum teleportation is a method for transferring quantum states, it requires classical channels to ensure the correct state is received, thus reinforcing the limitation of speed.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of quantum internet, with some participants indicating that its primary focus is on security rather than speed, while others mention flexibility and unexpected historical facts as additional considerations.

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Participants generally agree that quantum teleportation does not allow for FTL transfer of information or matter, but there are competing views on the implications of this process and the nature of the information being transmitted. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader interpretations of quantum teleportation and its applications.

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Participants express varying assumptions about the definitions of teleportation and the requirements for quantum communication, which may affect their interpretations of the discussion. The relationship between quantum states and classical communication is a central point of contention.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, quantum information theory, or anyone curious about the implications of quantum technologies in communication and security.

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Yes, quantum "teleportation" does transmit information. The speed of transmission is <= c (light speed), so doesn't violate relativity - of course.
 
Quantum teleportation is a thing, but it's probably not what you're picturing in your head. It's more like...

Alice and Bob share an entangled EPR pair ##S##; qubits in a special state where they agree along the Z axis and also they agree along the X axis.
Alice wants to send a qubit ##M## to Bob.
Alice compares ##M## to ##S_A## along the X axis, getting a SAME_X or OPPOSITE_X result.
Alice also compares ##M## to ##S_A## along the Z axis, getting a SAME_Z or OPPOSITE_Z result.
Alice's results tell her how Bob's ##S_B## relate to ##M##.
For any OPPOSITE results, Alice tells Bob he needs to flip over ##S_B## to fix the problem.
Then she tells him he's good to go, ##S_B## is now SAME as ##M## was along both the X and Z axes.
##M## has been moved into ##S_B##.

It's exactly analogous to a classical one-time pad. Instead of sending the information directly, you say how the information relates to a shared secret.
 
TJung said:
Is it possible to teleport information?
Yes, you just did that by asking the question on the internet.
 
rootone said:
Yes, you just did that by asking the question on the internet.
I mean, is there FTL information transfer?
 
secur said:
Yes, quantum "teleportation" does transmit information. The speed of transmission is <= c (light speed), so doesn't violate relativity - of course.

So what exactly is being teleported? I understand teleportation as the instantaneous transfer of something, so FTL.
 
No you cannot teleport (FTL) information or energy or matter.
In quantum teleportation schemes they "teleport" a quantum state ##\psi##, but a classical channel of communication is always needed in order to complete the teleportation (so the information is not sent FTL, but at the speed of light). Otherwise, the receiver can only hope that he will get the state ##\psi## on his system and not some other state. With the classically sent additional information, the probability that the receiver will get ##\psi## can become 1.
 
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maxverywell said:
No you cannot teleport (FTL) information or energy or matter.
In quantum teleportation schemes they "teleport" a quantum state ##\psi##, but a classical channel of communication is always needed in order to complete the teleportation (so the information is not sent FTL, but at the speed of light). Otherwise, the receiver can only hope that he will get the state ##\psi## on his system and not some other state. With the classically sent additional information, the probability that the receiver will get ##\psi## can become 1.
So when they talk about quantum internet, its about security, not speed?
 
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TJung said:
So when they talk about quantum internet, its about security, not speed?

Yes. Google for "quantum key distribution".
 
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TJung said:
So when they talk about quantum internet, its about security, not speed?

It's also about flexibility and historically-surprising facts.
 

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