Is this Pressure Vessel a Thin or Thick Cylinder?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a cylindrical pressure vessel should be classified as a thin or thick cylinder based on given parameters such as gas volume, pressure, yield strength, and safety factor. The context is primarily homework-related, focusing on the application of relevant theories and equations in mechanical engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests applying thin cylinder theory to find the thickness and then using the ratio r/t to determine if thick cylinder theory should be applied.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to calculate the diameter to hold the specified volume of gas before determining the thickness and checking the r/t ratio.
  • A different participant points out that the decision between thick and thin cylinder theory depends on the r/t ratio rather than the ratio of wall stress to yield strength.
  • One participant requests clarification on the equations needed for the calculations.
  • Another participant mentions that the volume equation for a cylinder is straightforward and that the hoop stress governs the design considerations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the approach to determining whether to treat the cylinder as thick or thin, with no consensus reached on the correct method or calculations to use.

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Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the calculations needed for the diameter, thickness, and the implications of the r/t ratio on the classification of the cylinder.

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Students and professionals in mechanical engineering or related fields who are studying pressure vessel design and the application of thin and thick cylinder theories.

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Homework Statement


20 m3 of gas at a pressure of 25 bar is to be stored in a cylindrical
pressure vessel 2 m long. Given the following information :

The yield strength of the vessel material is 14,000 psi

If a factor of safety of 5 is to be used, determine:

Whether the vessel should be treated as a thin or thick cylinder.

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iv been given the feed back as follows:
For this question you need to apply the thin cylinder theory to determine the thickness t, then depending on the answer for r/t, determine whether the cylinder should be treated as a thick cylinder. If it is a thick cylinder, then the thick cylinder theory must be applied to determine the thickness of vessel required.

The attempt at a solution

3.1 bar = 100,000 Pa
factor 5 means that maximumstrength
yield strength
=1 /5
1 psi=6894.7N /m2
a) We have PV = RT = PSL (L= 2 m long.)
So the strength of our vessel should be 25⋅105 Pa≈362.6 psi
From the factor of safety we can find the the maximum strength should be
14/5⋅103 psi=2.8⋅103 psi
So, the vessel should be treated as a thick. im told that my attempt is incorrect but i don't know how else to solve it useing the feed back I am given.
 
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The length is fixed at 2 m. So, calculate what the diameter needs to be to hold 20 m^3 of gas. From the diameter, calculate what the thickness needs to be and then check the r/t value to determine what set of equations should be used.

Thanks
Matt
 
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Did you work out the radius of the cylinder required to hold the compressed gas?

The decision on whether to apply thick or thin cylinder theory depends on the ratio r/t, not on what the ratio of the wall stress to yield might be.
 
can you explain to me how to do this, what equations do i need to use.
 
The equation to figure out the volume is straight forward. Just look it up for a cylinder. A basic thickness equation can easily be derived (or looked up) for the stress in the hoop direction. The longitudinal stress is always 1/2 of the hoop stress. So, the hoop stress governs.

Thanks
Matt
 

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