Pressure vessels, wall thickness

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The discussion revolves around calculating the wall thickness of a cylindrical pressure vessel designed to store 20 m³ of gas at 25 bar pressure. Participants debated whether the vessel should be treated as a thin or thick cylinder, with calculations indicating a wall thickness of approximately 0.231 m, suggesting it is a thick-walled vessel. However, some participants argued that using thin-walled equations yielded a thickness that also indicated it could be classified as thin-walled based on the thickness ratio. The conversation highlights the need to apply the appropriate equations for accurate results and the confusion surrounding the classification of the vessel type. Ultimately, the consensus is to recalculate using thick-walled equations for precision.
  • #31
0.74 was an error in my maths!
I had the assignment back and got the question right.
Persevere with the thick walled equations and you'll get there.
Use the examples in the workbook to guide you.
 
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  • #32
Rubear I found it to be thick walled and a minimum thickness off 231mm would this be correct??
 
  • #33
Yes but that's using the thin walled equation isn't it? You need to redo using the thick walled equation for greater accuracy I think.
 
  • #34
no not cracked it yet. I am stuck trying to apply thick walled equations...
 
  • #35
I got the thick walled equation to = 6.71
And the thin walled equation to =7.71...
 
  • #36
which equations are they Big Jock? do you mean thickness ratio?
 
  • #37
yeah thickness ratio equations got those answers and from everything else I have read on this question I believe all the answers are in this thread. I just re worked them all to confirm the answers I got and to make sure I was 100% correct with what I had come up with
 
  • #38
im totally confused. so far i have done the following...

calculate the radius r = √(20 / 2∏) = 1.784mcalculate the hoop stress σ = 96526602.1 / 5 = 19.3x106 (2800psi)

calculate wall thickness t = (1.784 x 362.6) / 2800 = 0.231mthickness ratio = 1.784 / 0.231 = 7.72im totally confused as to what i need to do next...
 
  • #39
Radius minus wall thickness = inside radius...
 
  • #40
ok so Ri = 1.553m and Ro= 1.784m

what am i looking to find out with these figures?
 
  • #41
Subtract outer radius from inner radius you get you wall thickness also put Ri and Ro into your wall thickness equations, see if that helps
 
  • #42
Big Jock said:
Subtract outer radius from inner radius you get you wall thickness also put Ri and Ro into your wall thickness equations, see if that helps

yes but that's just based on thin walled. Subtracting wall thickness from radius is based on the same figures as when taking ri from ro
 
  • #43
I had another look at this. Do I need to use thick wall equations with thin wall values, to get a more accurate value for Hoop Stress σh, and then use this new value of σh to re-calculate the wall thickness?
 
  • #44
so using known values in thick walled equations...

when r = ri = 1553mm

Axial Stress = 7.82MPa
Hoop Stress = 18.1MPa
Radial Stress = -2.5MPa


when r = ro = 1784mm

Axial Stress = 7.82MPa
Hoop Stress = 15.6MPa
Radial Strss = 0MPa





do i now need to recalculate wall thickness?
 
  • #45
can anyone help?
 
  • #46
oxon88 said:
I had another look at this. Do I need to use thick wall equations with thin wall values, to get a more accurate value for Hoop Stress σh, and then use this new value of σh to re-calculate the wall thickness?


Hi Oxon.

Long time ago I did this but, yes, calculate as per the textbook for approximation of wall thickness. Then take that value and repeat with appropriate equation for the approximated thickness to get true thickness.

Hope that helps?
 

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