Is V a Vector Space with These Operations?

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The discussion revolves around whether the set of functions from R to R, with pointwise addition and a specific definition of scalar multiplication, constitutes a vector space. Participants are examining the properties required for a vector space and questioning the implications of the defined operations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are exploring the closure properties of the defined operations, particularly questioning the validity of scalar multiplication and its adherence to vector space axioms. Some are attempting to identify specific properties that may not hold, while others are clarifying definitions and the nature of the function set.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of vector spaces, and there is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the unusual definition of scalar multiplication.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions and properties of vector spaces, particularly in relation to the specific functions being considered and the operations defined. Participants are encouraged to clarify which vector space properties are being examined and how they apply to the given set of functions.

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Homework Statement



V is the set of functions R -> R; pointwise addition and (a.f)(x) = f(ax) for all x.

is V a vector space given the operations?

Homework Equations



nil.

The Attempt at a Solution



i think it is not closed under multiplication.
if r is an element of R, then
r*a(x) . r*f(x) = (r^2)*(a.f)(x)
which is not equal to
r*f(ax)

im not really sure if i even have the correct approach.
any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks!
 
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skoomafiend said:

Homework Statement



V is the set of functions R -> R; pointwise addition and (a.f)(x) = f(ax) for all x.

is V a vector space given the operations?


Homework Equations



nil.

There are lots of relevant equations -- they comprise the definition of a vector space.

The Attempt at a Solution



i think it is not closed under multiplication.
if r is an element of R, then
r*a(x) . r*f(x) = (r^2)*(a.f)(x)
which is not equal to
r*f(ax)

im not really sure if i even have the correct approach.
any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks!

I don't follow your argument. There is no "multiplication" of vectors in the definition of a vector space, only addition. All you need to do is pick one of the properties of a vector space that doesn't work and give a counter-example. Which property are you working with above? It might be useful to list them.
 
suppose that f(x) = x2.

is it the case that ((a+b).f)(x) = (a.f)(x) + (b.f)(x)?

(this is the distributivity of field addition over scalar mutliplication axiom).
 
skoomafiend said:

Homework Statement



V is the set of functions R -> R; pointwise addition and (a.f)(x) = f(ax) for all x.

Deveno said:
suppose that f(x) = x2.

is it the case that ((a+b).f)(x) = (a.f)(x) + (b.f)(x)?

(this is the distributivity of field addition over scalar mutliplication axiom).
If I'm understanding the problem correctly, f(x) = x2 is not a member of set V, since af(x) [itex]\neq[/itex] f(ax).
 
Mark44 said:
If I'm understanding the problem correctly, f(x) = x2 is not a member of set V, since af(x) [itex]\neq[/itex] f(ax).

You aren't. The vector space is the set of [all] functions from R to R. It's just that scalar multiplication is defined in an unusual way.
 

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