Is W a subspace of the vector space?

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The discussion revolves around whether the set W, defined by the equation x1² + x2² + x3² = 0, is a subspace of the vector space V = R³. Participants are exploring the conditions required for a subset to be considered a subspace.

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  • Participants discuss the necessary conditions for W to be a subspace, including closure under addition and scalar multiplication. Questions arise regarding how the defining condition of W interacts with these closure properties. Some participants seek clarification on the nature of points in W and the implications of the defining equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the original poster's understanding and the implications of the conditions for subspaces. There is an exploration of the definitions and properties of W, but no consensus has been reached on whether W qualifies as a subspace.

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There is a lack of clarity regarding the specific elements of W and how they relate to the conditions for subspaces. Some participants note the need for precision in defining the vector space in question.

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W={(x1,x2,x3):x[tex]^{2}_{1}[/tex]+x[tex]^{2}_{2}[/tex]+x[tex]^{2}_{3}[/tex]=0} , V=R^3

Is W a subspace of the vector space?
from what i understand for subspace to be a subspace it has to have two conditions:
1.must be closed under addition
2.must be closed under multiplication

so...
I pick a vector s=(s1,s2,s3) and a second vector t=(t1,t2,t3).

for the addition i get:
s+t=(s1+t1,s2+t2,s3+t3)//so its closed under addition

for multiplication i get:
cs=c(s1,s2,s3)=(cs1,cs2,cs3)//closed under multiplicartion

what i don't understand is how the condition x[tex]^{2}_{1}[/tex]+x[tex]^{2}_{2}[/tex]+x[tex]^{2}_{3}[/tex]=0 would come into play. how do i use this condition in this problem?
 
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You mean V=R^3, right? And your 'proof' just proves R^3 is a vector space. It doesn't say anything about W. What is the set W? Can you find a point in it? Can you describe a general point in W?
 
eyehategod said:
Is W a subspace of the vector space?

Of which vector space? You should be more precise, although it is obvious you meant R^3.

eyehategod said:
from what i understand for subspace to be a subspace it has to have two conditions:
1.must be closed under addition
2.must be closed under multiplication

It is more practical to express this as one single condition; W is a subspace of V if and only if for any two vectors x, y from W, and any scalars a, b, ax + by is in W.

So, take any two vectors from W, let's say x = (x1, x2, x3) and y = (y1, y2, y3). Now write the linear combination ax + by, and see if the components of ax + by satisfy the condition for a vector to be in W. Also, while doing this, keep in mind that the components of x and y do satisfy this very condition!
 
my book says this:

If W is a nonempty subset of a vector space V, then W is a subspace of V if and only if the following closure conditions hold.
1.u and v are in W, then u+v is in w.
2if u is in W and c is a scalar, then cu is in W.
 
So what does "x is in W" mean here?
 

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