Isomorphism classes of groups of order 21

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The discussion revolves around the properties of groups of order 21, specifically focusing on the normality of Sylow subgroups and the implications of conjugation relations among their generators as presented in a textbook proof.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of normal Sylow subgroups and the relationships between their generators under conjugation. Questions arise regarding the specific steps in the proof, particularly the transition from one exponent to another during conjugation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify specific steps in the proof. One participant expresses confusion about the implications of conjugation on the generators of the Sylow subgroups, while another offers insights into the relationships between the elements involved.

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There is a focus on the properties of group elements and their interactions under conjugation, with specific attention to the constraints imposed by the order of the groups and the relations defined in the proof.

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Is there a question in there?
 
Sorry, I accidentally pressed "Enter" on my keyboard and it got sent. But I do have a question about the proof in the Artin textbook.

Let G be a group of order 21. The Sylow 7-subgroup K must be normal, and the number of Sylow 3-subgroups is 1 or 7. Let x be a generator for K, and let y be a generator for one of the Sylow 3-subgrops H. Then x^7=1 and y^3=1, so H intersect K = {1} and therefore the product map HxK->G is injective. Since G has order 21, the product map is bijective.

OK, this following paragraph is where I'm stuck: Since K is normal, yxy^-1 is an element of K, a power of x, say x^i, where i is between 1 and 7. So the elements x and y satisfy the relations x^7=1, y^3=1, yx=(x^i)y. OK, this makes sense. But, says Artin, the relation y^3 restricts the possible exponents i:
x=(y^3)(x)(y^-3) = (y^2)(x^i)(y^-2) = y(x^(i^2))(y^-1)=x^(i^3)).
I don't understand the step after (y^2)(x^i)(y^-2). I understand that x is a generator of K, but is he saying that any generator g of K satisfies yxy^-1=g^i? Because we have
(y^2)(x^i)(y^-2) = y(y(x^i)y^-1)y^-1, and it seems that he's saying that y(x^i)y^-1 = x^(i^2)). So x goes to x^i under conjugation by y, but why does x^i go to x^(i^2)?
 
murmillo said:
OK, this following paragraph is where I'm stuck: Since K is normal, yxy^-1 is an element of K, a power of x, say x^i, where i is between 1 and 7. So the elements x and y satisfy the relations x^7=1, y^3=1, yx=(x^i)y. OK, this makes sense. But, says Artin, the relation y^3 restricts the possible exponents i:
x=(y^3)(x)(y^-3) = (y^2)(x^i)(y^-2) = y(x^(i^2))(y^-1)=x^(i^3)).

Ok, so we know that:
[tex]yxy^{-1} = x ^ i \Rightarrow \prod_{k = 1} ^ i \left( yxy^{-1} \right) = \prod_{k = 1} ^ i (x ^ i)[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow y \left[ \prod_{k = 1} ^ {i - 1} \left( x y ^ {-1} y \right) \right] xy ^ {-1} = x ^ {i ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow y \left[ \prod_{k = 1} ^ {i - 1} x \right] xy ^ {-1} = x ^ {i ^ 2}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow y x ^ i y ^ {-1} = x ^ {i ^ 2}[/tex]

You can do the same to obtain: [tex]y x ^ {i ^ 2} y ^ {-1} = x ^ {i ^ 3}[/tex]. :)

Hope you can get it. If you have any more questions, just don't hesitate to ask. :)
 

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