Israel Wilson Perjes Metric: Tetrad Formalism Reference

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The discussion revolves around the Israel Wilson Perjes (IWP) metric and its treatment using the tetrad formalism, specifically focusing on the computation of connection 1-forms and Ricci tensors. Participants explore references, methodologies, and challenges related to this topic within the context of string theory, superstring theory, and advanced general relativity.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks references that detail the IWP metric using the tetrad formalism, expressing frustration with existing literature that complicates the spin connection.
  • Another participant suggests that the IWP metric tensor is simple enough for the original poster to compute the spin connection independently.
  • A participant acknowledges the complexity of calculating Ricci tensors and requests guidance to ensure they are on the correct path.
  • There is a suggestion to start with simpler examples, such as the Gibbons-Hawking metrics, to build confidence before tackling the IWP metric.
  • Another participant proposes a method for calculating Ricci tensors through conformal rescaling and iterative steps, indicating that these calculations can be simplified.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the proposed method, indicating a positive reception to the suggestions made.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to compute the Ricci tensors or the necessity of external references, as some suggest self-computation while others emphasize the complexity involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that calculations can become messy, particularly when dealing with Ricci tensors, and suggest breaking down the problem into simpler components. There are references to specific conditions under which certain metrics yield simpler results, but these conditions are not universally agreed upon.

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Is there any book or reference perhaps on string theory or superstring theory or even advanced general relativity that treats the Israel Wilson Perjes metric using the tetrad formalism in details, i.e, 1-forms and so? (Not spinors methos) I have ran across many papers that just place the spin connection in a very complicated way where factors come out of the blue. I have been trying to understand the twister method and I kind of grasped it but now I want to see how does it work using vielbeins. Please any suggestion would be great!
 
The IWP metric tensor is very simple, it shouldn't be hard for you to compute the spin connection yourself.

Are you unsure in general how to compute the connection 1-forms from the orthonormal basis 1-forms?
 
I did, but calculations get really messy when you want to find the Ricci tensors, that is why I needed a guide to know if I am on the correct track.
 
Oh, I thought you just wanted the spin connections. Calculations always get messy when you want Ricci tensors. :D

Have you done other Ricci tensors by hand? It would definitely help to do a simpler example first. For example, the Gibbons-Hawking metrics are

$$ds^2 = \frac{1}{V} (d\psi + \vec A \cdot d \vec x)^2 + V (dx^2+dy^2+dz^2),$$
where ##V## and ##\vec A## are functions of ##(x,y,z)## only, and

$$\nabla^2 V = 0, \qquad \vec \nabla \times \vec A = \vec \nabla V.$$
Under these conditions, the Ricci tensor should vanish.

If you can do that, then it is a simple matter to generalize to (Euclidean signature) IWP:

$$ds^2 = \frac{1}{V_1V_2} (d\psi + \vec A \cdot d \vec x)^2 + V_1 V_2 (dx^2+dy^2+dz^2),$$
where

$$\nabla^2 V_1 = 0, \qquad \nabla^2 V_2 = 0,\qquad \vec \nabla \times \vec A = V_2 \, \vec \nabla V_1 - V_1 \, \vec \nabla V_2.$$
Under these conditions, the Ricci tensor should again vanish.
 
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By the way, you can find the Ricci tensors of both of these metrics very easily if you first break them up in a few steps. First find how the Ricci tensor is changed by a conformal rescaling:

$$ds^2 = \Omega^2 d\hat{s}^2$$
where ##\Omega## is some function, and you should be able to write ##R_{\mu\nu}## in terms of ##\hat{R}_{\mu\nu}##. This calculation can be done in about a page.

Next do another general calculation:

$$ds_n^2 = (d\psi + A)^2 + ds_{n-1}^2$$
where ##A## is a 1-form that is not a function of ##\psi##. Again you should be able to write ##R_{\mu\nu}^{(n)}## in terms of ##R_{\mu\nu}^{(n-1)}##. This calculation is even easier than the previous one.

Once you have these two formulas, you can combine them in various ways to obtain the Ricci tensors of the previously-mentioned metrics.
 
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Thank you a lot for the nice idea!
 

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