Issues testing a tachometer with a function generator

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The discussion revolves around testing a tachometer using a function generator, focusing on the input values and corresponding output deflections. The user is struggling to get the tachometer needle to move despite connecting the function generator's output to the frequency input and ensuring proper grounding. Key points raised include the need for a +12V connection and the possibility that the tachometer may require a specific signal type, such as a square wave or TTL level signal. Additionally, the user is advised to check the output amplitude and offset settings of the function generator to ensure compatibility with the tachometer's requirements. The conversation highlights the complexity of tachometer designs and the importance of understanding the expected input signals for successful testing.
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I am on an assignment to test the domain of input values of a tachometer, and what output (deflection) different values correspond to. In other words, what's the minimum and maximum signals and what does the curve look like?

The trouble is I can't get ANY useful information. The tach has three inputs: Ground, +12V, and frequency. I have the output ground of the function generator connected with the ground of the tach (and the ground of the power supply), and the frequency input with the non-ground output of the FG.

No matter what frequency I use, the needle on the tach does not move. What in the world am I doing wrong here? Can anyone describe or picture in detail what they would use as their test setup?
 
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KingNothing said:
I am on an assignment to test the domain of input values of a tachometer, and what output (deflection) different values correspond to. In other words, what's the minimum and maximum signals and what does the curve look like?

The trouble is I can't get ANY useful information. The tach has three inputs: Ground, +12V, and frequency. I have the output ground of the function generator connected with the ground of the tach (and the ground of the power supply), and the frequency input with the non-ground output of the FG.

No matter what frequency I use, the needle on the tach does not move. What in the world am I doing wrong here? Can anyone describe or picture in detail what they would use as their test setup?

What's the output amplitude of your function generator? Is it sinusoid or square wave? I'm not really familiar with automotive electronics, but just from some quick Googling, there appears to be a wide variety of tachometer schemes (some based off of Hall Effect senders, some off the alternator, ignition, etc.)
 
KingNothing said:
I am on an assignment to test the domain of input values of a tachometer, and what output (deflection) different values correspond to. In other words, what's the minimum and maximum signals and what does the curve look like?

The trouble is I can't get ANY useful information. The tach has three inputs: Ground, +12V, and frequency. I have the output ground of the function generator connected with the ground of the tach (and the ground of the power supply), and the frequency input with the non-ground output of the FG.

No matter what frequency I use, the needle on the tach does not move. What in the world am I doing wrong here? Can anyone describe or picture in detail what they would use as their test setup?

I didn't see where you connected 12V -- I may have missed it. What current is being drawn from the 12V supply?
 
As someone who has worked for a company which designs and manufactures tachs and speedometers I'll see if I can help. What you describe I would assume to accept a square wave input. Most of the time even if the tach is expecting a sine wave from an inductive sensor it should accept a square wave. At the very least the needle should move. If this is a modern tach it could be expecting a TTL level signal from and engine control module. Older tachs were hooked directly to the negative side of the ignition coil which is switched to ground by a set of breaker points or in the case of solid state ignition, a transistor. When hooked to the negative side of the ignition coil you could expect VERY large voltage spikes which would have to be dealt with by the input circuitry of the tach. What did you have the function generator set to do? Do you have the output offset to go between 0 and 12 volts?
 
heh, you want to reverse engineer someone else's product? or are you working on something like a defense repair contract? if the later, it helps to know where the signal is coming from.
 
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