Kinematics problem: Ball rolling off ramp & table

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The discussion centers on a kinematics problem involving a ball rolling off a ramp and subsequently falling off a table. The key equation used is V=Vo+at, where the user attempts to calculate the time of fall based on vertical motion. The confusion arises from the misunderstanding that the final vertical velocity is zero when the ball reaches the floor; in reality, the ball has a positive velocity just before impact. The correct approach involves using SUVAT equations to account for the distance traveled during free fall.

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Sorry about all the erase marks. My question is why is the final velocity not 0.

Homework Equations


V=Vo+at[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So the question is asking for the horizontal distance the ball travels before it hits the floor. First to solve this I decided to solve for time. To do this is used V=Vo+ at which I rearranged to t=(V-Vo)/a. Using just the vertical component, I decided the vertical velocity of the ball when it reaches the floor is 0. So I did (0-1)/-9.8 which gave me a time of .102. The book solved for the final distance first and then solved for time
My question is why is the final velocity no just 0. When it reaches the floor it can't have a positive velocity because it has stopped moving.
 
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Bob Rudd said:

Homework Statement


http://imgur.com/0t8TVgq
http://imgur.com/0t8TVgq
Sorry about all the erase marks. My question is why is the final velocity not 0.

Homework Equations


V=Vo+at[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So the question is asking for the horizontal distance the ball travels before it hits the floor. First to solve this I decided to solve for time. To do this is used V=Vo+ at which I rearranged to t=(V-Vo)/a. Using just the vertical component, I decided the vertical velocity of the ball when it reaches the floor is 0. So I did (0-1)/-9.8 which gave me a time of .102. The book solved for the final distance first and then solved for time
My question is why is the final velocity no just 0. When it reaches the floor it can't have a positive velocity because it has stopped moving. [/B]

You know the ball falls for a certain distance when it rolls off the table. There's a SUVAT equation which deals with distance traveled under uniform acceleration, given an initial velocity. Why didn't you use this equation to find the time of the fall?
 
Bob Rudd said:
the vertical velocity of the ball when it reaches the floor is 0
No, that is after it has hit the floor. The equation you used is only valid for constant acceleration, so only until it is just about to touch the floor.
 

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