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A jumper from an altitude of 4572m will reach terminal velocity of 53m/s due to air resistance. The initial calculations suggest it takes approximately 88.96 seconds to hit the ground, factoring in the time to reach terminal velocity and the distance fallen. However, the discussion highlights that the acceleration due to gravity (9.81m/s²) decreases as the jumper approaches terminal velocity, complicating the calculations. A more accurate approach would involve using differential equations to account for the changing acceleration. Ultimately, the jumper will not exceed terminal velocity, which is a critical factor in determining the final speed upon impact.
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Homework Statement


If one jump from an airplane 4572m above the ground. if the terminal speed of a human is 53m/s (without a parachute) how long would it take u to hit the ground and how fast would u be going when u hit the ground?

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I answered the second part with just 53m/s since its the terminal speed

For part 1 however, I first found the time it takes for the human to reach 53m/s soo:
9.81 = (53 - 0)/t... t = 5.4s...With that i found the distance it travels during this time period : d = (0)(5.4) + (1/2)(9.81)(5.4)^2... d = 143m

With this distance, I subtracted it from the original distance: 4572 - 143 = 4429m
With that distance, I found the time it takes so: t = 4429/53 = 83.56s... then I added the 2 times: so 83.56 + 5.4 = 88.96s = total timeIs this correct? or is there a step missing or am I going in the wrong direction?
 
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A human does not accelerate with 9.81m/s^2 until it reaches its final velocity and stays at that velocity (with zero acceleration) afterwards. It should give a reasonable approximation, however. The real acceleration begins at 9.81m/s^2 and goes down as the speed gets closer and closer to the terminal speed (which is never reached in an ideal model). A better evaluation would need a differential equation (and its solution).
 
mfb said:
A human does not accelerate with 9.81m/s^2 until it reaches its final velocity and stays at that velocity (with zero acceleration) afterwards. It should give a reasonable approximation, however. The real acceleration begins at 9.81m/s^2 and goes down as the speed gets closer and closer to the terminal speed (which is never reached in an ideal model). A better evaluation would need a differential equation (and its solution).

So would I do something like this:
d = (Vi)t +(1/2)(a)t^2
4572m = 0m + (0m/s)(t) + (1/2)(-9.81m/s^2)(t^2)
4572m = (-4.905m/s^2)(t^2)
-932.1s^2 = t^2
30.53s = t

Vf = Vi + at
Vf = 0m/s + (-9.81m/s^2)(30.53s)
Vf = -299.5m/s
But since you cannot exceed terminal you will still be going at 53m/s?
 
No, that would neglect air resistance completely...
Do you know how to calculate the force due to air drag? With F=m*a, this gives a velocity-dependent acceleration.
 
I think we are supposed to neglect air resistance
 
The terminal speed is the result of air resistance (and gravity) only.
 
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