Kinematics/Projectile Motion Question?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Stanc
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Motion
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving projectile motion, specifically analyzing the fall of a human from an airplane at a height of 4572m and considering terminal velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the time to hit the ground and the speed upon impact, initially using terminal velocity and basic kinematic equations. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding constant acceleration and the effects of air resistance, suggesting that a more accurate approach may involve differential equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the role of air resistance and terminal velocity. Some guidance has been offered on the limitations of the original approach, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of neglecting air resistance in some responses, while others emphasize its importance in determining terminal speed and the dynamics of the fall.

Stanc
Messages
60
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


If one jump from an airplane 4572m above the ground. if the terminal speed of a human is 53m/s (without a parachute) how long would it take u to hit the ground and how fast would u be going when u hit the ground?

The Attempt at a Solution



I answered the second part with just 53m/s since its the terminal speed

For part 1 however, I first found the time it takes for the human to reach 53m/s soo:
9.81 = (53 - 0)/t... t = 5.4s...With that i found the distance it travels during this time period : d = (0)(5.4) + (1/2)(9.81)(5.4)^2... d = 143m

With this distance, I subtracted it from the original distance: 4572 - 143 = 4429m
With that distance, I found the time it takes so: t = 4429/53 = 83.56s... then I added the 2 times: so 83.56 + 5.4 = 88.96s = total timeIs this correct? or is there a step missing or am I going in the wrong direction?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
A human does not accelerate with 9.81m/s^2 until it reaches its final velocity and stays at that velocity (with zero acceleration) afterwards. It should give a reasonable approximation, however. The real acceleration begins at 9.81m/s^2 and goes down as the speed gets closer and closer to the terminal speed (which is never reached in an ideal model). A better evaluation would need a differential equation (and its solution).
 
mfb said:
A human does not accelerate with 9.81m/s^2 until it reaches its final velocity and stays at that velocity (with zero acceleration) afterwards. It should give a reasonable approximation, however. The real acceleration begins at 9.81m/s^2 and goes down as the speed gets closer and closer to the terminal speed (which is never reached in an ideal model). A better evaluation would need a differential equation (and its solution).

So would I do something like this:
d = (Vi)t +(1/2)(a)t^2
4572m = 0m + (0m/s)(t) + (1/2)(-9.81m/s^2)(t^2)
4572m = (-4.905m/s^2)(t^2)
-932.1s^2 = t^2
30.53s = t

Vf = Vi + at
Vf = 0m/s + (-9.81m/s^2)(30.53s)
Vf = -299.5m/s
But since you cannot exceed terminal you will still be going at 53m/s?
 
No, that would neglect air resistance completely...
Do you know how to calculate the force due to air drag? With F=m*a, this gives a velocity-dependent acceleration.
 
I think we are supposed to neglect air resistance
 
The terminal speed is the result of air resistance (and gravity) only.
 

Similar threads

Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
40
Views
3K
Replies
18
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 42 ·
2
Replies
42
Views
3K