Kinetic energy of positron and proton

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The problem involves two positrons and two protons positioned at the corners of a square, with the goal of determining their kinetic energy after a long time. The context includes considerations of electrostatic interactions and the work-energy theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the problem, including whether all particles are released from rest and if they are released simultaneously. There is also an exploration of the implications of the wording regarding the particles being "kept" at the corners.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem statement and expressing confusion about how to approach the solution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the ambiguity of the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential ambiguity in the problem statement, particularly regarding the movement of the particles and the timing of their release, which may affect the interpretation of the question.

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1.e problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Two positrons and two protons are kept on the four corners of a square of side a. Positrons are kept at vertices A and C and protons are kept at B and D. let q denote the charge on both positron as well as the proton. So what is the kinetic energy of the positron and proton respectively after a long time ?

Homework Equations


I used the work energy theorem ie
Change in k.e. = wk. done
And work done = kq²/a

The Attempt at a Solution


First I calculated the kinetic energy of the positron due to all the 3 charges. I got the equation 2*kq²/a + kq²/root 2.
But the value that came after simplifying this equation did not match with the answer given in my book...
 
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Gummy_Bear said:
1.e problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Two positrons and two protons are kept on the four corners of a square of side a. Positrons are kept at vertices A and C and protons are kept at B and D. let q denote the charge on both positron as well as the proton. So what is the kinetic energy of the positron and proton respectively after a long time ?
Is this the complete statement of the problem? Are all four particles released from rest at the same time?
 
Yes this is the complete statement. I am also confused because i can't figure out how to solve it.
 
Gummy_Bear said:
Yes this is the complete statement.
Without knowing how many particles are released and whether or not they are released simultaneously, the question is ambiguous. The question states that the protons and positrons are "kept" on the corners of the square which could imply that none of the particles are able to move (which would make the problem fairly easy to solve :smile:).
 
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