Kirchhoff's Law for High Frequency Circuits: Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Kirchhoff's law to high-frequency circuits, specifically in the context of transmission line segments. Participants seek to understand the relationship between the general form of Kirchhoff's law and its application in this specific scenario, including the derivation of a voltage equation for a transmission line segment.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Seán expresses confusion regarding the application of Kirchhoff's law in high-frequency circuits, specifically in relation to a voltage equation derived for a transmission line segment.
  • Seán provides the equation: V(z,t) = R\deltaz * I(z,t) + L\deltaz * (\deltaI(z,t)/\deltat) + V(z + \deltaz,t) and requests clarification on its derivation and relation to the general form of Kirchhoff's law.
  • Seán describes the setup of an infinitesimal piece of transmission line, detailing the current and voltage at both ends of the segment.
  • A later reply suggests applying Kirchhoff's voltage law (KVL), Ohm's Law, and the inductor equation to derive the equation mentioned by Seán.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion remains unresolved, with participants exploring the application of Kirchhoff's law without reaching a consensus on the clarity or correctness of the derivation provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully clarify the assumptions or definitions used in the context of high-frequency circuits, nor do they resolve the mathematical steps involved in deriving the equation.

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Hello,

I am hoping someone can break down an equation for me. I am used to Kirchhoff's law in the form of i1 + i2 + i3 = 0 etc. But recently in a High Frequency class, we were told ...'Let us apply the Kirchhoff's law to the equivalent circuit of a transmission line segment of length [itex]\delta[/itex]z. Using the voltage law, we get

V(z,t) = R[itex]\delta[/itex]z * I(z,t) + L[itex]\delta[/itex]z * ([itex]\delta[/itex]I(z,t)[itex]/[/itex][itex]\delta[/itex]t) + V(z + [itex]\delta[/itex]z,t)'.

If anyone could help me break this down, or explain who it relates to the general form of the equation, that would be amazing.

Many thanks in advance.

Seán
 
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SMOF said:
Hello,

I am hoping someone can break down an equation for me. I am used to Kirchhoff's law in the form of i1 + i2 + i3 = 0 etc. But recently in a High Frequency class, we were told ...'Let us apply the Kirchhoff's law to the equivalent circuit of a transmission line segment of length [itex]\delta[/itex]z. Using the voltage law, we get

V(z,t) = R[itex]\delta[/itex]z * I(z,t) + L[itex]\delta[/itex]z * ([itex]\delta[/itex]I(z,t)[itex]/[/itex][itex]\delta[/itex]t) + V(z + [itex]\delta[/itex]z,t)'.

If anyone could help me break this down, or explain who it relates to the general form of the equation, that would be amazing.

Many thanks in advance.

Seán

An infinitesimal piece of transmission line would look as follows:

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Now say the current flowing into the left side of this circuit is [itex]I(z,t)[/itex] and the voltage across the two input terminals is [itex]V(z,t)[/itex]. Likewise, say the current flowing out of the right side is [itex]I(z+\delta z,t)[/itex], and the voltage across the output terminals is [itex]V(z+\delta z,t)[/itex]. Just as in the diagram (except it uses x as the distance variable, and upper case delta symbols - but hopefully you get the idea).

Now simply apply the usual KVL equation, Ohm's Law and the inductor equation: [itex]V = L \frac{\text{d}I}{\text{d}t}[/itex]. This will yield your equation above.
 
Hey,

That's great! Thanks for the reply and the information.

Seán
 
No problem Seán. If you need any more help just let me know.
 

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