Kleppner then Morin or quick intro then Morin?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice between studying mechanics using Kleppner's textbook followed by Morin's book, or starting with a quick introduction to mechanics before tackling Morin. Participants explore the content, style, and intended audience of both texts, as well as their suitability for different learning approaches.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Morin covers more advanced topics, such as Lagrangians, which are not included in Kleppner.
  • Others note that both books are aimed at first-year students with a strong background in multivariable calculus and algebra-based physics.
  • One participant emphasizes that Kleppner is an excellent textbook, while Morin is characterized as a problem book, indicating different uses for each text.
  • There is a suggestion that Morin's book may be more suitable for those looking for additional content, potentially allowing students to skip intermediate texts like Taylor.
  • A later reply points out that the context of using Morin in a classroom setting differs from self-studying, as it is often used alongside problems assigned from the text by the author himself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to studying mechanics, with no consensus on whether to start with Kleppner or a quick introduction before Morin. The discussion reflects multiple competing views on the suitability and content of each book.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the advanced nature of both texts and the potential overlap in content, but do not resolve the implications of this overlap for different learning styles or educational contexts.

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I have choice between using Kleppner then doing Morin right after or using some quick intro to mechanics then Morin, what do you guys think?

Thank you for your input :)

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You can read chapter 6 of Morin here, this suggests it covers more than K&K which I believe has nothing on Lagrangians. For what it covers, K&K is excellent. Morin covers more though.

I've seen it said here that Morin's book has very difficult questions. So those are the factors to consider: which has the style you like, which covers what you need and which suits your style of learning as regards problems.
 
So Kleppner and Morin are meant for the same audience?
 
Thinker301 said:
So Kleppner and Morin are meant for the same audience?

Well, both are meant for first year students at MIT or Harvard who have learned multivariable calculus in school already, and have probably learned algebra-based physics as well. They are ready for a principled and sophisticated exposition. Both are the most advanced books used in those institutions for first-year mechanics, I believe. Both are written for very advanced entry students. Therefore, it seems to me that they must overlap very much.

It's your decision but I can say that K&K is an excellent book, you can't go wrong with it. Only the extra scope could win me over, knowing what I know about K&K, how good it is.

But that said, Morin might be the best book for that extra content. Many people recommend Taylor as an intermediate book, but with Morin you could skip it perhaps.
 
Morin is a problem book. Kleppner is a textbook. It's not an either or. The Harvard honors mechanics class that uses Morin has Morin teaching the class on top of assigning problems from his text so the situation is quite different from that of self-studying.
 
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