KNCalculating Member Forces in Truss Structures

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating member forces in truss structures, focusing on the application of moment equations and the effects of forces at various points. Participants explore the principles of static equilibrium and the calculation of moments about specific points in the truss.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial approach to calculating moments about point A, proposing two different equations based on varying perpendicular distances.
  • Another participant argues that the 2 kN force does not create a moment about point A due to its direction being aligned with the vertical distance, suggesting the use of the cross product for clarity.
  • A later reply expresses confusion regarding the assertion that the 2 kN force does not cause a moment, seeking clarification on the mechanics involved.
  • Another participant corrects the initial moment calculation, asserting that the moment at A due to the force at E is indeed 4.8 kNm, indicating an error in the original moment equation presented.
  • One participant attempts to use the corrected moment value in their calculations, arriving at a different final equation.
  • A final post acknowledges the confusion experienced earlier and expresses gratitude for the assistance received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the calculation of moments, particularly the role of the 2 kN force in generating a moment about point A. The discussion remains unresolved as different interpretations of the mechanics are presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the direction of forces and their contributions to moments, as well as the dependence on specific definitions of moment and equilibrium conditions. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved or unclear.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and professionals interested in structural engineering, mechanics, and the analysis of forces in truss systems.

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Attached is a picture of the truss. I am trying to calculate the member forces.

I know a moment is = force * perpedicular distance, but in this case, for example, if i am taking moments about A, Would the equation be

-(1*2KN)+(1*c) = 0

or using an alternative perpedicular distance

-(2.4*2KN)+(0.8*c) = 0

For my preliminary working, assuming i have used correct perp distance i have

ƩFx = 0
ƩFy = 0
ƩMoments about a point = 0

Ay + By - 2KN = 0

Momments about A = -(2KN * 2.4) + 1*ReactionC = 0
-4.8KN = reactionC



Sub into first eq

Ay +(-4.8) -2 = 0
Ay = 6.8

To find out the reaction in member AB

I have

6.8 - Tab Cos(tan-10.8/1) = 0
Tab = 6.8/Cos(tan-10.8/1) = 8.738

I have the answer to be 2.56
 

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In taking moments, the 2kN force has the same direction as the vertical distance on 1m, so its moment will be 0. If you get confused, you can always calculate M = r x F, where x is the cross product operator.
 
SteamKing said:
In taking moments, the 2kN force has the same direction as the vertical distance on 1m, so its moment will be 0. If you get confused, you can always calculate M = r x F, where x is the cross product operator.

Im don't quite understand sorry, i would understand if the force was acting through the point i am taking momoments about but how can the 2KN force x distance away not cause a moment
 
Using the value of of 4.8 but the same working i end up with a final equation of

2.8/cos(38.66) = 3.59
 
Ok i realize where my confusion was on this problem thanks for your help
 

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