Know if a constant is on a line.

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The discussion revolves around determining the existence of a constant \( c \) such that the line represented by the equation \( x + cy = 0 \) has a specific slope of -8. Participants explore the implications of the problem's wording and the conversion of the equation into different forms to analyze the slope.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to determine if a constant \( c \) is on the line defined by \( x + by = 0 \) with a slope of -4.
  • Another participant questions the phrase "constant on a line" and requests the original question for clarity.
  • A later reply suggests that the problem should be rephrased to clarify that it asks whether a constant \( c \) exists such that the line \( x + cy = 0 \) has a slope of -8.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the slope of the line in the standard form and asks where the -8 fits into the equation.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of using the slope-intercept form \( y = mx + b \) and suggests converting the given equation to this form to find the solution.
  • Two participants confirm a calculated slope of \( \frac{1}{8} \) as a response to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the problem's wording and the interpretation of the slope. There is no consensus on the correct approach to the problem, and multiple interpretations of the question exist.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the ambiguity in the problem's wording and the potential confusion arising from the standard form of the equation versus the slope-intercept form.

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I just need some help with a basic question I can't remember from a long time ago, just started up school again...

How can I know if there is a constant c on the line x + by = 0 if it has a slope of -4? Explain this please.
 
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It's not quite clear what the phrase "constant on a line" is. Do you mean is there a point of a certain kind on a line? Can you post the original question word-for-word?
 
Ackbach said:
It's not quite clear what the phrase "constant on a line" is. Do you mean is there a point of a certain kind on a line? Can you post the original question word-for-word?

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I'm also not sure of that. This is the whole question
 
Ok, it all makes sense now, although I am not a fan of the problem's wording. It should read like this:

Determine whether there exists a constant $c$ such that the line $x+cy=0$ has slope $-8$.

The "Has slope $-8$" is not a new sentence.

So, how do you think you could proceed on this problem? What is the slope of a line of the form $x+cy=0$?
 
Well I guess the slope right now is 1, but I'm not sure because I guess that 0 just looks weird in there to me which is throwing me off. Where does the -8 go in the equation? Before the x? If so, the answer is supposed to just be a number and there will be x and y values in the end, isn't that right?
 
Well, we need to be careful. When it comes to lines, I use only the slope-intercept form: $y=mx+b$. I don't worry about the standard form, the point-slope form, the two-point form, or anything but the slope-intercept form. Can you convert the equation you're given into slope-intercept form? I think if you do that, it might suggest the solution of the problem.
 
1/8 :) Thanks!
 
phrox said:
1/8 :) Thanks!

You got it! And you're very welcome.
 

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