Lab report questions, gas thermometer

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The discussion revolves around a lab report concerning the calibration of a gas thermometer, specifically focusing on the implications of using water instead of mercury as the liquid in the thermometer. The original poster expresses concerns about the inability to conduct the experiment due to a safety incident involving mercury.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions the behavior of water in a gas thermometer compared to mercury, particularly regarding density, freezing points, and the implications for temperature measurement accuracy. Other participants discuss the negligible effect of density changes in liquids with temperature and the assumption of temperature equilibrium between the liquid and the gas.

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Participants are exploring various aspects of the problem, including the physical properties of liquids used in thermometers and their effects on measurement accuracy. Some guidance has been provided regarding the density changes of mercury and the behavior of water at different temperatures, but no consensus has been reached on the broader implications for the lab report.

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The original poster is working under constraints due to the inability to perform the experiment and is relying on provided data and theoretical considerations to complete the lab report.

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Hi PF!
I have a lab report to do about a gas thermometer experience that I couldn't do. I'm very saddened about this because I should have manipulate mercury but the earlier group broke a container of mercury and so the class had to be disinfected and closed for some days.
Basically it consists of calibrating a gas (air) thermometer in order to evaluate the room temperature. (This picture explains how is the device : http://www.shef.ac.uk/physics/teaching/phy001/fig1.gif . For further explanations of what is a gas thermometer, read this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_thermometer)
So the professor gave us the results the first class obtained and told us to work on it to get the final result. Furthermore he asked a few questions to be answered in the lab report.
One of these questions is : What if the liquid used is water instead of mercury?
My thought is that water would go up more than mercury because it is quite less dense. So as the column of the thermometer is only 47 cm and that the mercury went up to 16.5 cm for a gas temperature of 98,488 °C, the thermometer of water wouldn't be of any use for high temperatures (it would go up more than 47 cm and spread on the floor). Am I right?

For low temperatures (0°C to 8°C), the water has a density's minimum at 4°C. Does it affect the lecture of measures? Also, if the air is say at -20°C, will the water freeze? Or not if I take the measure fast? I know it has a somewhat a low heat capacity so I wonder if the air temperature has a big effect.
Another doubt: the mercury seems to have to big heat capacity, so when I heat up the air to 100°C, the mercury expand quite a lot and the column of mercury should go higher than if it were at room temperature. Does it makes “false” results?
Is there anything else I can add to answer the professor's question?
 
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Ok maybe I've asked too many questions.
I don't understand why the gas thermometer that uses mercury as liquid is accurate. Indeed, when we heat the gas from 25°C to 100°C, the mercury that is in contact with the gas also heat up and expands. Meaning that the column of mercury is higher than it should. As we read the temperature looking at the height of the mercury's column, it is erroneous.
We should take this in count when analyzing the data but we do not. I feel I'm missing something here.
 
Hi,

Usually the change in density, with temperature, of liquids and solids is neglected because it is small. For mercury, it's a 2% change from 0C to 100C (13.60 vs. 13.35 g/cc).

Also, we should probably assume the temperature changes slowly enough so that the liquid will be the same temperature as the air. So you're right about water freezing below 0C.

Other issues with water: as you said, it could spill out of the tube (if the tube end is open) or fill up the tube (if the tube end is closed). Either way, a longer tube is required to get a reading.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Hi,

Usually the change in density, with temperature, of liquids and solids is neglected because it is small. For mercury, it's a 2% change from 0C to 100C (13.60 vs. 13.35 g/cc).

Also, we should probably assume the temperature changes slowly enough so that the liquid will be the same temperature as the air. So you're right about water freezing below 0C.

Other issues with water: as you said, it could spill out of the tube (if the tube end is open) or fill up the tube (if the tube end is closed). Either way, a longer tube is required to get a reading.
Thank you very much! I wasn't aware that liquid's density change with temperature was so "unnoticeable".
Thanks for the informations, now I can do the conclusion of my report. :smile:
 

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