Laminar to turbulent flow transition?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transition from laminar to turbulent flow over an aerofoil, specifically focusing on calculating the length of the region of laminar flow using the Reynolds number. Participants explore the application of relevant equations and parameters in this context.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the critical Reynolds number for the transition is 6 x 10^5 and provides the dynamic viscosity, density, and velocity of air.
  • Another participant clarifies that the formula for laminar-turbulent transition is specific to flow over an airfoil and suggests solving for the distance from the leading edge.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the applicable formula for aerofoils and seeks clarification.
  • Another participant reiterates the transition condition and suggests that the Reynolds number multiplied by length equals 6 x 10^5.
  • A participant uses an online calculator to derive the length of the laminar flow region, questioning the relationship between the Reynolds number and the physical parameters involved.
  • One participant confirms the calculated length of 0.60606 m and suggests that it is correct, while also noting that an algebraic solution could have been used instead of trial and error.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the critical Reynolds number and the need to calculate the length of laminar flow. However, there is some confusion regarding the application of formulas and the relationship between the parameters involved, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the correct application of the Reynolds number formula for aerofoils versus pipes, and participants have not fully resolved the implications of their calculations or the correctness of their units.

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Homework Statement


Consider the flow of air over an aerofoil.
The critical Reynolds number marking the transition from laminar to turbulent flow is 6 x 10^5, the dynamic viscosity is 2.0 x 10^-5 Ns/m^2, the density of air is 1.100 kg/m^3 and the aircraft velocity is 180 m/s.
What is the length of the region of laminar flow?

Homework Equations


Ellaminar = 0.06 Re

where

Re = Reynolds Number

The Attempt at a Solution


Re = Ro x u x X / μ
X = 0.06 m = 6 cm
 
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The formula you gave for laminar-turbulent transition is for flow in a pipe. For flow over an airfoil, the distance parameter in the reynolds number is the distance measured from the leading edge. They already told you in the problem statement that the laminar-turbulent transition occurs at Re = 6E5. So, solve for the distance x.
 
Ah, that's completely baffled me now.

Would you happen to know the formula applicable to aerofoils?
 
BlueCB said:
Ah, that's completely baffled me now.

Would you happen to know the formula applicable to aerofoils?
They already gave it to you. ReX=5E5
 
So what, Reynolds number*length = 6*10^5?

How does that make any sense?
Where does density, dynamic viscosity and velocity come into the equation?

I used an online Reynolds number calculator and used the inputs of the initial question in the formula: p*u*L / µ
For (L) I changed the input until the Reynolds number equaled 600,000
(p = 1.1), (v = 180), (L = 0.060606) and (µ = 2*10^-5).

So for the Reynolds number to be 6*10^5, the length of the region of laminar flow must be 0.60606?

Is that correct?
 
BlueCB said:
So what, Reynolds number*length = 6*10^5?

I used an online Reynolds number calculator and used the inputs of the initial question in the formula: p*u*L / µ
For (L) I changed the input until the Reynolds number equaled 600,000
(p = 1.1), (v = 180), (L = 0.060606) and (µ = 2*10^-5).

So for the Reynolds number to be 6*10^5, the length of the region of laminar flow must be 0.60606?

Is that correct?
Yes. Now you have the right idea. Of course, you didn't have to do it by trial and error. You could have solved algebraically for L. I haven't checked your units, but, if they are correct, please express L with units.
That is all there really is to this problem. Your teacher wanted to see if you knew how to calculate the transition length L from knowledge of the velocity and the physical properties.
 
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